BigBang build questions 70-120

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thread starter lobo7 Sep 05 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

so, out of curiosity i've been looking at the lvl 70-120 moves, and after BB, none of the training places or even training combos will be the same, now ppl are saying that BloodyStorm sucks, but after BB BS will be 420% twice against 8 monsters, UpperStab will be 250% twice to 6 monster (+70% damage while in the air), FlyingAssulter will be 420% twice to 8 monsters (7% chance of stun for 6 seconds); so with these moves, mostly BS, radically changed, my personal training against a mob would be FA+BS+BS+BS (and maybe a US thown in there); with BS so strong it seems that US will be useless, even with the +70% damage in the air; i am just wondering if anyone has any ideas on builds and if you would mind postin them? also, will there be SP resets handed out after BB takes place so we can put the points on correctly, or will nexon just automatically reset everything, or just leav it? thx in advance ;) lobo7 ~ SplitKantana

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40kCommissar 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You get a full SP reset from what I hear

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JustAKid 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 40kCommissar : You get a full SP reset from what I hear [/quote] You get 3 full sp reset scrolls.

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lobo7 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

thx, but as for my first question, will UpperStab be usefull at all?

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stanley22 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

US will be useful since it pops the monster in air allowing u do 70% more dmg so making it 320% to me it's useful since i plan on FA>TS/BS>US>FB when i hit lv 70+. And i from videos, US is more effective since it's faster than BS, and BS sends u to the back of the mob u rush, and it's purely 420%. While US give 70% boost, and faster, and the reason y i want to US>FB is because of that extra 70% making it back to 180% (like it was after the BBP) so US and BS is useful

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sha969696 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Whatever you do, DON'T USE THE SP SCROLLS!

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lobo7 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@above are you serios, if so, tell us why, but if your trying to prove something to someone that you're being [restricted phrase], then just lay off

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snowboy8 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

cant u use US and then FA into them and get the +70% bonus on FA?

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gawrd 09/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

above:u can and all US, BS, and TS are useful in different ways so dont complain about which one is the best, you cant survive if you dont have one of them

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Gnawliryc + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

US is far more useful than BS because of the lack of delay. by the time you finish using 1 BS, you will have already used 3 or 4 US, thus you end up doing ~1000-1210% damage, which is around 3 times the damage of BS. even if the delay is removed, there is still the issue of turning back around, which can take the duration of 1 US (possible by lag), so you will still end up doing only about 2/3 the damage of US. even if US hits only 6 mobs, if you hit an average of 1100% damage, you will do more damage for less time. of course, US has no iframes, has lower range, and will be ruled out from training starting early 4th job. however, US is still better for damage earlier on. but BS has more use later on, due to being a movement skill and the fact that it kills extremely quickly compared to US. if anyone has a counterexample on the damage, please tell me. gawrd i guess that is true

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lobo7 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@gnawliryc i found your post to be the most explanatory and user friendly, as well as making sense, thank you for answering the questions

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Super333 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] sha969696 : Whatever you do, DON'T USE THE SP SCROLLS! [/quote] From your KMS experience, tell us why not please!

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djgj958 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If u use the sp rest what will happen to the mastery books that u have used for example mirrior image for it to get to 11+ u have to get it to 10 and then use the mastery book and u gain 1+ sp from using the book and sence u r sp resting it it will be at 0 so does that mean that u would have to buy the mastery book again

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sonic272 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] djgj958 : If u use the sp rest what will happen to the mastery books that u have used for example mirrior image for it to get to 11+ u have to get it to 10 and then use the mastery book and u gain 1+ sp from using the book and sence u r sp resting it it will be at 0 so does that mean that u would have to buy the mastery book again [/quote] Exactly what I was thinking. extremely good question.

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mpham13 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Don't remeber where but Db's and shad get extra bonus % of damage when using a certain combo. I don't know which combo but it does help in training.

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