This Is Flat Out Ridiculous

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thread starter kingsley282 Sep 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

With the new class "Wildhunter" coming out with the big bang patch, the differences in the bowman class have been merged together unfairly. Crossbow power with a hurricane-like skill, all the while ontop of a freakin panther, theres basically no point in making a BM or MM anymore. And the whole "SE is the same on both characters" is just utterly ridiculous. This is like if some resistance character came out that had hyper body, brandish/brave slash or whatever its called, and elemental charges, all in one class. At this point, saying Nexon has gone too far is an understatement...

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Nonexistent 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't think it's that unreasonable. They are more like a bowman using crossbows. They don't have a freeze shot like crossbows do. They do not have snipe, an essential marksman skill. I would say the only advantage is the added HP and moving while shooting. Bow masters and Marksman have their own perks though.

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dragonice1 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

They have a puppet that can attack. I don't think they have an element. One of the major things they don't have is a rangers/snipers ability to dodge (20%, next attack is 100% critical) They also don't have marksmanship, which can hit through 20% of defence. (very important, considering PB blocks 70% of damage.)

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hard08 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

who cares, SE is the only thing that matters.

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TangleViper 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hard08 : who cares, SE is the only thing that matters. [/quote] There are Bowmasters with 30k+ clean ranges that disagree.

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cancerkiller 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

With panter, they are a Bigger target, more easily hit if u fought the snack bar, u should know the laser beam attack that I duck to dodge, u can't dodge it on a panter they do crappy damage if not on panter no MoN no PB no epq 99.999999999999999999% chance we goanna have to pay for skills no arrow rain/ erruption ( reason I made a archer) I seem their damage unfunded; they weak no Phoenix/ freezer etc

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Podunkman 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

this is when people forget that BM's and MM's get major boosts in BB so much so that WH skills are actually weaker than regular bowmen, the higher multiplier and passive attack from the mount stops wh's from sucking, cause otherwise they would compared to BM's and MM's. @above, they do no damage on their mount, all their attack skills have to be used on the mount.

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iSmashBugs 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

the only reason to play a BM over a WH is to get a MoN or CWKPQ. other than that, not a reason to play a BM. - WH have a arrow-rain like skill, shockwave - WH's wild shot hits 16.6666 times a second, while BM's hurricane htis 8.333 times a second - they both have the same SE - they both have the same hurricane - WH's riding mastery gives an inherant 40% damage, but it works like Dark force, which multiplies your total damage by1.4 instead of adding on 40% of your damage - They have a hyperbody and +30% damage combined skill - their puppet attacks, has mroe HP, lasts longer they only advantage that MM's have over WH's is that they have is Pierce. since the Damage post-BB is so high (a 200 MM hit over 1m damage with ultimate strafe, only baby dragon food and self buffs) snipe is redundant, and therefore sucks, and is not an advantage.

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hardballer 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i dont think its much to worry about for the people who are already on the road to 120 with friends who plan to boss or already do....they wont replace you if theyre good friends

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tyr2067 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Chances are the Big bang patch is going to reset the damage and skill power of everything.

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McAwesomesauce 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] cancerkiller : With panter, they are a Bigger target, more easily hit if u fought the snack bar, u should know the laser beam attack that I duck to dodge, u can't dodge it on a panter they do crappy damage if not on panter no MoN no PB no epq 99.999999999999999999% chance we goanna have to pay for skills no arrow rain/ erruption ( reason I made a archer) I seem their damage unfunded; they weak no Phoenix/ freezer etc [/quote] A Potentialed HTP offers more damage than a MoN. lolepq They're already in KMS and don't require NX for Skillbooks every class that doesn't have arrow rain is bad? They can fire while moving and have Hawk and higher HP than Bowmen, the last thing they need is a bird.

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Yoyodude938 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dont worry they dont have anything on you, its pretty much like takin the best mobbing skills archers get and mixing it with an evan cuz most of ur skills are the same but at 3rd job u get these new skills which work in only one direction(just like evans) they will probably be overpowered for a while but thats nexon for you and it sounds dumb to ride on an obese tiger who swallows and spits stuff back up, if u ask me its an un-original idea cuz it seems a bit ripped offa yoshi and his techniques and you know what i would be a bm or mm anyday

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VietDreamer + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iSmashBugs : the only reason to play a BM over a WH is to get a MoN or CWKPQ. other than that, not a reason to play a BM. - WH have a arrow-rain like skill, shockwave - WH's wild shot hits 16.6666 times a second, while BM's hurricane htis 8.333 times a second - they both have the same SE - they both have the same hurricane - WH's riding mastery gives an inherant 40% damage, but it works like Dark force, which multiplies your total damage by1.4 instead of adding on 40% of your damage - They have a hyperbody and +30% damage combined skill - their puppet attacks, has mroe HP, lasts longer they only advantage that MM's have over WH's is that they have is Pierce. since the Damage post-BB is so high (a 200 MM hit over 1m damage with ultimate strafe, only baby dragon food and self buffs) snipe is redundant, and therefore sucks, and is not an advantage. [/quote] 16.66666 arrows per second is a lie (even with FA it shouldn't be THAT much). STOP SPREADING IT AROUND CUZ I SAW YOU SPREADING THAT FALSE INFO FOR LIKE A MONTH ALREADY EVEN WHEN PEOPLE SAID IT'S NOT TRUE. Read the BB info from SP and the sticky, Wild shot=hurricane in terms of firing speed. Snipe doesn't suck at targa/scar/zak/pianus, and best of all, it doesn't suck at pb. Heck, its usefulness can be named at most major bosses.

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MadJester 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

its just a different style of play. i'm sure there will be many downside t ocome up when people get a feel for wh. but i have to admit the thing i hate the most is that they took both 2nd job mob skill and tied them together into iron (arrow) bomb thats just blatant double plagurism

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cancerkiller 09/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No crit until se

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