After BB and before BB DPM chart

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thread starter AjandanN Sep 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Does any one have a link for this ? ty for the help

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Darkmninya 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

before BB: party aran has highest dpm corsair solo

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ilikepiez5 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

not another one. -___-

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mamaleo + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-KMS-Big-Bang-Revamp-333.html#Formulas The charts are in DPS instead of DPM.

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gtbROX 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

There aren't very many accurate dpm/dps charts out there.

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orangeking11 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Lolwolf : We have to use sacrifice now at bosses? I hate that move, it usually gets you killed at bosses. If only crusher could attack and go through weapon defense. [/quote] I think they changed it from losing % of damage done to only a small % of your HP. With Dark Force instead of Berserk, if you have auto-pot and/or a Healer, things will be a lot easier than they are now. xD

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ComboSlasher 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] mamaleo : http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-KMS-Big-Bang-Revamp-333.html#Formulas The charts are in DPS instead of DPM. [/quote] That chart is horribly wrong he didn't include many things and made a lot of errors I mean Demo + Barrage combo? And he didn't include DoT for thieves, and he made a lot of other errors.

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zenyzero 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ComboSlasher : That chart is horribly wrong he didn't include many things and made a lot of errors I mean Demo + Barrage combo? And he didn't include DoT for thieves, and he made a lot of other errors. [/quote] demo + barrage combo is higher than demo alone.

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Kalovale 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Lolwolf : We have to use sacrifice now at bosses? I hate that move, it usually gets you killed at bosses. If only crusher could attack and go through weapon defense. [/quote] Even if Crusher could ignore Def, I would still choose Sacrifice any day. You're either not reading enough, or not understanding enough what you've read.

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Etrieys + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] zenyzero : demo + barrage combo is higher than demo alone. [/quote] Considering everyone's been flaming the hell out of him for it, I'd say no, no it's not. His calculations are way off and they've been proven wrong about a hundred times. OT: TS, pre-BB everyone basically knows the deal. Post-BB no one knows the deal. That's pretty much the truth of it. Anyone claiming to have an accurate DPM table is wrong. Intra-class comparisons are fine (I.E. I/L Vs. F/P Vs. Evan Vs. Bishop), but inter-class comparisons are skewed by equipment differences, delays, skills used, play styles, etc. etc. Compare apples to apples for an accurate result. Asking which fruit is best will get you nowhere. Because at this point, it's all opinion.

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leannesama + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] zenyzero : demo + barrage combo is higher than demo alone. [/quote] no, the only point doing that is just for iframes, spamming demo would be way more powerful than mixing.

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iLickLollipops 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] leannesama : no, the only point doing that is just for iframes. [/quote] i thought that i-frame don't exist after the bb?

leannesama 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iLickLollipops : i thought that i-frame don't exist after the bb? [/quote] they do just some got removed

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Potato122 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] zenyzero : demo + barrage combo is higher than demo alone. [/quote] The only time you'll use that combo is if you want to be weaker. OT: There's one on South Perry, but I'm not sure about it. For Buccaneers, it's not calculated with Demo, but Barrage. Barrage does not become spammable like everyone thought it would, but I think the maker of that DPM chart mixed it up.

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gtbROX 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What alot of people don't factor in is the fact that the people making dpm charts typically have bias, or will throw in bias to patch up areas unknown to them. This is why since spadow's release of the kmst bb patch info there have been over ten different dpm/dps charts circulating the web with almost completely different rankings of the classes. I could easily throw out a random list of classes and say "OFFICIAL DPM/DPS CHART" but where would my proof/calculations be? And a certain class' dpm/dps can change from level to level, are you setting it at level 150 or level 200? Obviously lv 200 is not ideal since not everyone will reach that level. 150 is a more realistic level target, but who's to say every lv 150 of that class will have the same skill build and set of skills/sps. In all my time on basil, this past one and a half years I have only seen one accurate dpm chart but it was a ranged class specific dpm chart, and the TS managed to do all the calculations adequately factoring in the most common skill builds showing the math with certain buffs and at certain levels. He only compared 4 classes, but his calculations went down to the floor. I highly doubt that the people making these "accurate dpm charts" made extensive mathematical calculations like those of the ranged class dpm thread. It's still stickied on basil I believe.

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