information on how the bing suit affects damage

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thread starter darkspawn980 Aug 29 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok, this is how the bing equipment system works, as you probably have noticed, when atacking aliens, you do a set amount of damage, the way that works is like this: If you have any piece of equipment from the bing set on, you will be able to hit the monsters, you don�t require full set for that, however, the number of upgrades andequipment determine the damage you do. Or more specifically, only the number of upgrades, here are some numbers, i am a level 105 DK, my bing set is at +6 +7 +7 +7. When i equipped only my bing overall (+6) i did this damage: To Wise aliens: 1514 To Luck aliens: 1418 To powerful aliens: 1314 Every single time i attacked, i would do that corresponding amount of damage depending on which alien i attacked. Then i took off my overall, and put on my bing shoes (+7) my damage became: To Wise aliens: 1528 To Luck aliens: 1431 To powerful aliens: 1323 You can note that there is a small increase in damage (14, 13, 9) when i went from +6 to +7 (+1 increase) Then, i equipped my bing suit full (+6+7+7+7=+27) and my damage went to: To Wise aliens: 1808 To Luck aliens: 1691 To powerful aliens: 1503 Now, doing some math, you can figure that every +1 your equipment gets, you will deal 14 more to wise, 13 more to luck, and 9 more to powerful however, i have no information on what happens if you have a 0/0/0/0 bing suit and equip/unequip certain parts, i could research this if you are interested. So basically, the total amount of upgrades the bing equipment you have equipped determines your static damage , this was proven true when doing some field work, a guy with a +2+2+1+1 set equiped (level 31) did 1514 to wise, 1418 to luck and 1314 to powerful, his total number of upgrades equals +6, and he did the same amount of damage i did when i had only my +6 overall no matter the difference of 74 levels you can use this formula to find out how much damage you will do to the aliens, note, this formula IS NOT PROVEN for anything less than +4 increases, and as said, if you are interested, i could investigate it, anyways, here is the formula: Wise Aliens: 1430 + (14 x #) Lucky Aliens 1340 + (13 x #) Powerful Aliens 1260 + (9 x #) where # equals the sum of all the upgrades your equipped bing suit has (so if you have equipped a +6 helm and +7 overall, the # would be 7+6=13) UPDATE ADDED 1.01 i have determined that it is the number of upgrades and not what kind of upgrades, what determines your damage, after scrolling my shoes with speed (which as far as i know, doesn't increase STR in any way) it STILL increased my damage against the aliens, so you can go for a full +speed+jump suit, and deal heavy damage to the aliens Currently working on: Dex alien formula Finding alien HP project: taking one for the team [quote] ShinkuDragon : level 105 full bing set=138 def str 301 luk 167 int 125 36 def str luk int 146 no suit Str 586 luk 502 int 334 [/quote] PD: i am unable to hit dexterous aliens, but seeing how we don't need to kill them, i didn't really try

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TheHim 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I can kill the Dexterous Aliens with my Priest. o.o (I was level 72 when I first attempted to kill it.)

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xchoasx 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I think the only problem with killing dextrous is the fact that its has a high avoid As a bandit I've been able to kill them quite easily

My Characters: ChoasEmerl - 60 Windia Bandit

rostock123 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xchoasx : I think the only problem with killing dextrous is the fact that its has a high avoid As a bandit I've been able to kill them quite easily [/quote] I heard u had to have a full set of visitor. I just got it and i can kill them but i still miss a little

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xchoasx 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

rostock123 I can kill even with only the shoes on so my theory about the avoid still makes sense ^_^

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darkspawn980 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

what i have been able to conclude is that the aliens have a script that allows them to be hit ONLY when you have a piece of the bing suit on (one piece is enough) the STR, LUK and INT aliens have something like zero or avoid, and are level one so that everybody can hit them, however, the DEX aliens have an actual AVO value which requires you to have the acc to be able to hit them even after equipping the bing suit. could i get if possible, the number of upgrades your suit has in total and how much damage you deal to the DEX aliens (and any other alien if you don't mind helping a bit extra) also, if you hit the dex aliens, acc and class please. SS's are apprecciated, but not mandatory hahaha xD

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MiszJenn 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lucky: 1860 Dex: 2300, 85 acc; doesn't count though, l'm a mage class -129 Bishop. Wise: 1990 Str: 1620 All equipment is +10 this consists of helm, gloves, shoes and overall. Happy researching C:

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WaterPower 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

My aran has been able to kill dexterous aliens, but only a fraction of the time. Most of the time I'll miss, and then once in a while, I'll land a hit. It takes about 2 hits for me to kill one dexterous alien.

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snowboy8 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

none of my guys can hit the dext aliens. i noticed the # (like the fact that each hit does about 1/20 of ur max hp)

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darkspawn980 08/31/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MiszJenn : Lucky: 1860 Dex: 2300, 85 acc; doesn't count though, l'm a mage class -129 Bishop. Wise: 1990 Str: 1620 All equipment is +10 this consists of helm, gloves, shoes and overall. Happy researching C: [/quote] awesome, if you check, my formula matches these numbers, i'll keep in mind that you are a mage, i saw a sin killing dex aliens today too, above the 120 lvl mark too. do you mind helping a bit extra? just attack a dex alien with three bing equips, copy the number, attack with 2 bing equips, copy the number, and then with one bing equip. this will help me make a formula for the damage, now, let's see if i can find the HP of these evil aliens from the future that look so much like us now. thanks a lot for your input! seriously, and everyone else, keep them coming!

My Characters: ShinkuDragon - 90 Scania Dragon Knight