how is big bang supposed to balance the classes?

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thread starter tyrant20xx Aug 29 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

look at all the changes that are supposed to happen here ----> http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-KMS-Big-Bang-Revamp-333.html#MageChanges everybody gets powered up and they are supposed to add a cool down to ultimates Sairs and NL are already plenty overpowered so if they get powered up more like the guide says how are the classes supposed to get balanced out? as is its just gonna widen the gap and screw AM's over more then they already are (since leech is already killed)- Bishops need not be mentioned cuz they always got into boss runs for support skills basically nexon already killed AM's and now they wanna add insult to injury and pull a Quagmire on our dead corpses (watch the family guy episode where Quagmire gets married and you will know what i mean at the end of the episode)

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TisNoel 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Quagmire gets married? No wayy!

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infferrno 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Balance =/= Equal Damage. Balance means that everyone has a niche where they excel at. NLs and Sairs are amazing at 1 vs 1 so obviously are stronger than others on bossing. On the other hand, a Buccaneer is amazing at training, thus they took out our cooldowns and made our skills spammable to increase that advantage. Balance means, overall, everyone is the same. You can't lose if you choose a class.

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tyrant20xx + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] TisNoel : Quagmire gets married? No wayy! [/quote] lol in 1 episode yeah but thats not the point of this thread lol. @ above; yeah you can - it took me years to make my AM and get it to 129 - now its gonna have no point cuz no leech selling - we wont be able to boss - what else is there? so yeah AM's did lose

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Kingsleh 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ye, he prentends to die and some other guy dies in his funeral

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ClricSakura 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Like I've said before, AM's are not killed. People only look at the "30 second Cooldown" part. Did you not see the 740% to CL, Big Bang hitting 6 monsters 5 times, and Blizzard being pumped to 1420% (I think) with a DoT factor added? Compared to the pros, the 30 second cooldown means NOTHING. And most high leveled AM's are content with the changes (at least the ones I know).

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LuckyGambler 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lol you think NL is overpowered.. you my friend are wrong.. VERY WRONG... DBs are the overpowered ones, arans are, corsairs are , DKs are....And evans ... We NL have only one attacking skill besides avenger so dont put us in the ranks of the strong

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infferrno 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] tyrant20xx : lol in 1 episode yeah but thats not the point of this thread lol. @ above; yeah you can - it took me years to make my AM and get it to 129 - now its gonna have no point cuz no leech selling - we wont be able to boss - what else is there? so yeah AM's did lose [/quote] Really? Get your head out of the dirt and look at the major boosts you get. -_________- For crying out loud, you zoomed up the DPM chart! Before BB, you were at the very bottom, now you're mid-top tier!

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tyrant20xx + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ClricSakura : Like I've said before, AM's are not killed. People only look at the "30 second Cooldown" part. Did you not see the 740% to CL, Big Bang hitting 6 monsters 5 times, and Blizzard being pumped to 1420% (I think) with a DoT factor added? Compared to the pros, the 30 second cooldown means NOTHING. And most high leveled AM's are content with the changes (at least the ones I know). [/quote] 1st of all how exactly would %'s work on an AM? our damage sucked before 7.40 times as much wont make a diff since they are powering up everybody.

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tangentline 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's called making them all broken enough that they are balanced.

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Falk59 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I heard mages have their other skills buffed and good DoT. All the classes are put where they are supposed to be put.

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Just2LoveU + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ClricSakura : Like I've said before, AM's are not killed. People only look at the "30 second Cooldown" part. [/quote] Too bad that's all most of them look at because according to them, leeching is the only way to gain money, but they wouldn't use a lot of money is they didn't spam their ultimate. Also, I agree with @infferrno

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MatthewDough 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] tyrant20xx : 1st of all how exactly would %'s work on an AM? [/quote] Study first. They made the formula different, of course.

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Sphinxy 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] tyrant20xx : look at all the changes that are supposed to happen here ----> http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-KMS-Big-Bang-Revamp-333.html#MageChanges everybody gets powered up and they are supposed to add a cool down to ultimates Sairs and NL are already plenty overpowered so if they get powered up more like the guide says how are the classes supposed to get balanced out? as is its just gonna widen the gap and screw AM's over more then they already are (since leech is already killed)- Bishops need not be mentioned cuz they always got into boss runs for support skills basically nexon already killed AM's and now they wanna add insult to injury and pull a Quagmire on our dead corpses (watch the family guy episode where Quagmire gets married and you will know what i mean at the end of the episode) [/quote] AM's are not screwed over, they get greatly improved. you obviously know nothing and are just a reader who takes random facts and turns it into a wall text. leeching is not killed. bishops should be mentioned. out of the 3 original mages, bishops get the short end. Their training becomes that of a second job F/P with a summon. they have not killed ams. sairs are not over powered neither are NLS. the only overpowered class currently in gms would be Dual blade and Aran. they are getting buffed, but other classes are getting more buffed. big bang does not mean equal damage. it means similar. in the end it all comes down to funding.

Phong128992 08/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] infferrno : Really? Get your head out of the dirt and look at the major boosts you get. -_________- For crying out loud, you zoomed up the DPM chart! Before BB, you were at the very bottom, now you're mid-top tier! [/quote] Do you really think A/Ms care about DoT? We are a major mobbing class. If we can't mob and we can't go mob DoT wont matter. And for the girl that says the bb is good for mages I don't agree. Even all the mages I know which is like 10 that I've talked to doesn't even like the patch.

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