Rant regarding BSL

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thread starter Harpier 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

(BSL = Breed Specific Legislation.) Several areas of the united statesare trying to get breeds like the pit bull terrier, rottweiler, etc., banned, because they claim that these dogs are "naturally vicious". I hate when the media focuses on any attack by a pitbull, when ANY dog is capable of attacking a human IF TRAINED TO. No responsible dog owner would -ever- leave their dog off leash. And clearly, anyone who treats their dog in such a way where it becomes aggressive toward people, does not deserve to have a dog. Statistically, you're more likely to be bitten by a cocker spaniel or a labrador than by a pit bull. As a vet tech, I see all sorts of different breeds, from the smallest chihuahuas to the hugest of mastiffs. The small toy breeds, cocker spaniels, pointers, and the small terriers, tend to be more snappy than all of the pitties we see put together! Do people not see that the breed is the victim here, of horrible cruelty by "humans" who abuse them to be weapons? Pitbulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans, and other similar breeds look "manly" and "intimidating" which is why they fall victim to such cruelty at the hands of the master they instinctively adore. I have been bitten numerous times by so-called "friendly breeds" like cocker spaniels, poodles, and so on. Does that make all poodles mean? Do the actions of several pitbulls represent their whole breed? Of course not! Pitbulls were originated to fight other dogs for "entertainment" in Victorian times, yes, but they were specifically bred to be -NON- AGGRESSIVE WITH PEOPLE! From Wikipedia: "The sport of dog fighting, which could be carried out under clandestine measures, blossomed. Since Bulldogs proved too ponderous and disinterested in dog fighting, the Bulldogs were crossed to English White and Black and Tan Terriers. They were also bred to be intelligent and level-headed during fights and remain non-aggressive toward humans. Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten. Dogs that bit the referee were culled." "aha!" , you may say, "So pitbulls are vicious against animals!" Not so, if trained properly! In fact, as all terriers were originally bred to hunt rats, a terrier such as a jack russel or a westie has the same potential as a pitbull to go after a small animal - if their irresponsible owner lets them! If you own ANY terrier, you have to train it to accept other animals from a young age. Pitbulls of our current time are beaten, abused, and mistreated to TRAIN THEM to be aggressive against people - WHICH GOES AGAINST THEIR VERY BREED STANDARD! If the pitbulls are all exterminated, the monsters who abused them to fight will pick another breed to torment and train to be vicious. Any dog is capable of attacking people if trained poorly. Blame the deed, not the breed.

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tykro 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yay?

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MiamiVice5 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's like, stereotyping, on like, dogs.

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jacinthe 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Poor doggies=( It's not the dog's fault at all! Irresponsible owners do not deserve to take care of animals of any type, for they are just harming the animal.

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boogeybro 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

MiamiVice5 said: "It's like, stereotyping, on like, dogs." Well it's true. Dogs->Wolves Wolves= Natrual hunters Bulldogs-> Trained to fight in some German War So owning one of those types of dogs is like owning a bear,lion,tiger, tazmanian devil, or any other natural hunters. You can try to train em to be calm, but they'll snap at anytime.

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Harpier 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

boogeybro said: " MiamiVice5 said: "It's like, stereotyping, on like, dogs." Well it's true. Dogs->Wolves Wolves= Natrual hunters Bulldogs-> Trained to fight in some German War So owning one of those types of dogs is like owning a bear,lion,tiger, tazmanian devil, or any other natural hunters. You can try to train em to be calm, but they'll snap at anytime." Oh, how ignorant. ANY dog can be aggressive if they are not trained properly. ALL dogs are natural hunters, so by your logic, NO dog is trustworthy.

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kaze13 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

man dog fighting is some sadistic stuff i mean who would wanna see two animals rip each other to shreds for no reason other then your enjoymen or gambling. sick b@stards.

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pvtsicktard 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

those dogs are not trained to kill, they are just misunderstood

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boogeybro 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Harpier said: " boogeybro said: " MiamiVice5 said: "It's like, stereotyping, on like, dogs." Well it's true. Dogs->Wolves Wolves= Natrual hunters Bulldogs-> Trained to fight in some German War So owning one of those types of dogs is like owning a bear,lion,tiger, tazmanian devil, or any other natural hunters. You can try to train em to be calm, but they'll snap at anytime." Oh, how ignorant. ANY dog can be aggressive if they are not trained properly. ALL dogs are natural hunters, so by your logic, NO dog is trustworthy." Yes, but some dogs are more vicous and stronger then others. I doubt a chiwawa will snap and do more damage to a person then a bulldog. There's a reason why some dogs are kept as regular pets and some are kept as gaurd dogs.

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Roland000 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

boogeybro said: " Harpier said: " boogeybro said: " MiamiVice5 said: "It's like, stereotyping, on like, dogs." Well it's true. Dogs->Wolves Wolves= Natrual hunters Bulldogs-> Trained to fight in some German War So owning one of those types of dogs is like owning a bear,lion,tiger, tazmanian devil, or any other natural hunters. You can try to train em to be calm, but they'll snap at anytime." Oh, how ignorant. ANY dog can be aggressive if they are not trained properly. ALL dogs are natural hunters, so by your logic, NO dog is trustworthy." Yes, but some dogs are more vicous and stronger then others. I doubt a chiwawa will snap and do more damage to a person then a bulldog. There's a reason why some dogs are kept as regular pets and some are kept as gaurd dogs." Its Chihuahua, I own 2 and if you piss them off a piece of ur lip is gone,

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boogeybro 01/02/07 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Roland000 said: " boogeybro said: " Harpier said: " boogeybro said: " MiamiVice5 said: "It's like, stereotyping, on like, dogs." Well it's true. Dogs->Wolves Wolves= Natrual hunters Bulldogs-> Trained to fight in some German War So owning one of those types of dogs is like owning a bear,lion,tiger, tazmanian devil, or any other natural hunters. You can try to train em to be calm, but they'll snap at anytime." Oh, how ignorant. ANY dog can be aggressive if they are not trained properly. ALL dogs are natural hunters, so by your logic, NO dog is trustworthy." Yes, but some dogs are more vicous and stronger then others. I doubt a chiwawa will snap and do more damage to a person then a bulldog. There's a reason why some dogs are kept as regular pets and some are kept as gaurd dogs." Its Chihuahua, I own 2 and if you piss them off a piece of ur lip is gone, " I knew it spelled it wrong. Oh, well. Anyways, a lip is not a life. Bulldogs can kill.

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Harpier + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No dog is "more vicious than others". The reason why some dogs are kept as "guard dogs" is because their loyalty is unmatched. These trusting dogs are trained -by people- to be aggressive. If you socialize a dog properly and train them from a young age, they will be fantastic pets. If you encourage aggression in a dog, no matter what the breed, they will be aggressive. We have some horribly aggressive dogs that have to be fully sedated when they receive exams at the vet. Their breeds?: * Cocker Spaniel. *Border Collie * German Shorthaired Pointer * Wheaten Terrier I have been sent to the hospital -by a cat bite-, and -by a mini poodle bite-. ANY dog can cause damage if they bite you. And the reason WHY they bite, is because theyw ere not socialized at a young age by their owner. And English Bulldogs, as you are referring to, are the most non-aggressive couch potatos you'll ever see. link Is this the face of a killer? link Or this? link Or this? ANY dog that is neglected, beaten, and encouraged to be aggressive, will, no matter what the breed. Pitbulls are fantastic, loyal, and affectionate pets, and capable service dogs. The top drug sniffing dog? A pit bull. Petey in the Little Rascals? link A pit bull. Pitbulls can kill if trained to. So can Labradors. Or standard poodles. Or pointers. Or springer spaniels. Pitbulls and other breeds deemed "vicious" are the true victims. All dogs want to do is be part of our "pack", and give us unwavering loyalty. The people they trust and respect treat them poorly, encourage them to fight, and leave them to die. Humans are the true monsters. Not the dogs. Before demonizing a breed of dog, learn the facts and don't rely on myth. The Pit Bull Problem: (WARNING! FLASH CONTAINS IMAGES OF DOGS IN DISTURBINGLY GRAPHIC CONDITIONS.) link

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