Lukless is screwed?

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thread starter TeaLeaves Aug 19 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So I've been looking around and many posts say after big bang patch, nexon will introduce a new m.att formula where m.att > int so basically lukless mages are screwed. Anyways, I have a level 53 i/l lukless mage right now (planning to get it to level 120+) and should I start adding luk and become low luk? or should I just give up on mages and go back to my aran which is quite close to level 70.

devilsqueen 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

just start adding luk slowly now so you can have luk equips to wear reverse stuff

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chickenpoodl 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

refer to my post. its in here, near the bottom. http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1663866/0/After_BB_patch_5_int__1_mag_att.html#

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ezirb6 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Clerics/Priests/Bishops should go luk or low luk Arch Mages can use ele wands at level 70 and 130. There ARE level 163 ele staves w/ a luk requirement, but it's really high, the staves are rare and expensive, and it's only ~20m.atk higher. @Chickenpoodl About the shield LUK scrolls, shields can be a good place to get LUK, but you don't just get 3stats from shield m.atk anymore. 2m.atk is ~10int now, so it's more like 11stats.

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chickenpoodl 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ezirb6 : @Chickenpoodl About the shield LUK scrolls, shields can be a good place to get LUK, but you don't just get 3stats from shield m.atk anymore. 2m.atk is ~10int now, so it's more like 11stats. [/quote] umm... eh? you totally misunderstood my post, i think.

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Hanate 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

People can still be luckless, but its very difficult and something that isn't worth the time for most players.

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Gutanaclone + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lol I should start pumping luk or wut? @chickenpoodl, how much would it cost for all that luk equips?

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ravkin 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@ Chickenpoodl Nice nice. Thank you for giving me a link to refer to for Lukless Bishops. Ot: Read: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1664946/0/Bishops_Post_BB.html# http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1664420/0/Why_are_lukless_mages_bad_after_Big_Bang.html# http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1659760/0/Big_Bang_problem.html# http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1656412/0/Lukless_still_possible_for_mages.html# http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1649971/0/Big_Bang_vs_Lukless_Archmages.html#

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Sp4ceG04t 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@ chickenpoodl umm potential equips make going luckless rather futile with 4 luck base you would need 41 luck from 2-3 equips to equip the lvl 78 mage overall even unique luckles equips below lvl 31 only get a 3% boost low luck/reg luck mages can get a 6% boost from every equip by just having it epic or 3% from rare the difference in int boosts is unreal i thought i would have to w8 till i get a estaff 5 and the bigbang to outdmg luckless i was wrong 6% boosts vs 3% or if your talking lvl 50 or so 6% vs 4%.

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JustBlazeddd 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ezirb6 : Clerics/Priests/Bishops should go luk or low luk Arch Mages can use ele wands at level 70 and 130. There ARE level 163 ele staves w/ a luk requirement, but it's really high, the staves are rare and expensive, and it's only ~20m.atk higher. [/quote] umm if the formula is like what people are saying, that;s like saying this weapon is only 20 w.atk lower than that one.

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chickenpoodl + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

luk cape is extremely cheap. get a PUAC, toss on a handful of cape luk 60's. 30 it if your budget allows. luk belt is cheap too. get a red or black belt, 100% it. if you got more to work with, you can use accessory 70's for 2luk per slot. belts are free from dojo if you'r willing to invest time. i don't know how much gems cost in your respective worlds, but shoes are the cheapest thing to make in genearl. handful of mill for makering gems, make and intermediate luk gem, maybe intermeidate wisdom, toss them all on and a shoe stim for good measure if you wish. level 80+ shoes allo for 2 gems, level 70 sandles and loewr allow for 1. you'll typically get 7-9luk shoes clean. cheaply too. busted glasses are around 60-80 clean? or get a nub leveled up and do it yourself at LPQ. and sok it over to your main. overalls are ognna be the msot expensive to make a really nice one. but then again, so are int overalls. bet you with % gear out, 90% of the funded mages out there aer using clean overalls cubed for 6-9%. i personally settled for my own bathrobe sitll. but then agian i sacrificed %int on a few of my items for actual int rather than % since thoes items are being used by friends for hp washing. so % doesn't benefit them, so i didnt' bother cubing for that. [quote] Sp4ceG04t : @ chickenpoodl umm potential equips make going luckless rather futile with 4 luck base you would need 41 luck from 2-3 equips to equip the lvl 78 mage overall even unique luckles equips below lvl 31 only get a 3% boost low luck/reg luck mages can get a 6% boost from every equip by just having it epic or 3% from rare the difference in int boosts is unreal i thought i would have to w8 till i get a estaff 5 and the bigbang to outdmg luckless i was wrong 6% boosts vs 3% or if your talking lvl 50 or so 6% vs 4%. [/quote] theres so many different variations adn combinations you can do these at. hell, i have a friend who's doing a top-bottom set up with level 3x gear bought form ellinia lol. two peice, epic each, yielding 8-12%. you just gotta figure out what works best for your avaialbltiy of gear, budget, and opporutnity. what i described is the best case scenario. someone who has a good decent base of funds to work with. high level. and lastly, willign to work to refine their gear to the best they can have. its not gonna be the best layout for everyone, it never was, never will be. everything i said is simply a good solid basis for ppl to work for if they wish to remain lukless (23 or less) for their entire career of their mage. while having it work now pre-bigbang, and post-bigbang. adn lastly, gianing 40ish luk is rediculously easy now

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Sp4ceG04t 08/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

chickenpoodl srry if i typed it wrong im not talking about 40 is luck from total equips im talking about just a cape belt and shoes being scrolled fo luck to give you enough to thos lvl 78 equips. For a evan 20 luck at lvl 120+ is just dragon equips and then 37-48 or so luck from htp and z helm for a total of 68 or so luck so that last 3 luck might not be 2 hard to get for some of those coveted lvl 71+ equips. Finding equips has been rather hard for me with semi decent- good funding to get 3 luck equips with 2 potential stats (the only 3 stat item i had i blew up because it was cursed dont ask) and most of them only give one % stat of int, your friend with 2 lvl 3x equips giving 8-12% each seams godly to me i get about 34% from all my gear and my epic lvl 50 or so gear only adds 6% and 4 % respectively (shield+ cape) yet each and every one of my lvl 71+ give 6% or so once i get the chance to cube them. (bar my helm im still trying to get a spare so i can cube it more) My point is if i only had equips that gave 2-4% boosts luckless i would still have less total int then i do now and all you need is to be semi funded with 60-80 luck to get that extra 2-6% boost on each equip so it is more cost efective and much more benifical to be low luck or reg luck when you consider that in just about every case 3% is > 1-2%.

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chickenpoodl 08/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well, thats once again, the "easier" way of looking at it. its similar to a post i read earlier in response to what i was saying. my route of course is optimal, tahts how i do things. it'll involve investment of time and resources. but ultimately in the end, its one of the best ways to set things up. ppl will of course haev ot cut corners, make sacrifices at times, and stray from this but if you're doing things for the long run, you'll always end up working back towards that "optimal" path right? hey i mean look at my gear. i was 100% lukless, even using a nocturnal staff straight from 2nd job up till 197 when i blew it up with a potential. bathrobe, wg, yss, the usual lol. even now with potentiality gear out i still haevnt' gone and switched everything up to hgiher level mage gear. and yes i got more than enough luk to wear all 71+ gear since i got enough to wear more than just the DDS. i just haevn't bothered for a number of reasons. despite that, even only having 2-3% on everything except cape, bathrobe, a non potentailed glove, etc. i still have almsot 1900 magic. benefits of being high level i suppose. but that is simply an exmple of the differneces that you will hav eto pick for yourself to suit your situation the best.

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ezirb6 08/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

JustBlazeddd True, except for the fact that the level 163 stave requires 165 luk... 20m.atk < 165luk

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DecoyChicken 08/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

add some luk. you're not screwed

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