1h hero, or 2h?

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thread starter yuseung999 Aug 16 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sorry if this is in th wrong section... >.< Hi basil! After posting other threads finding help about my crusader, it's going fine and leveling at a not TOO slow pace xD After talking to BL and guild about being a hero, some stated that being 2h is better, but I'm 1h. I'm kinda confused, wondering which one I should go. This might help too: For 1h, I've got a 20 att shield (saving up forever), and if I decided to go 2h, I could sell that, get mesos, and buy another 2h sword. So Basil, is being the 2h sword hero better, or the 1h? Sorry if this is a common question as well.. >.<

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qazwsx7 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You guys are only thinking about the sword and shield... 2h would be better unless he has a few bills leftover for % equips and a godly 1h sword. It's better to stay 1h for now until you can use a reverse.

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Dpwarrior30 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] yuseung999 : Dpwarrior30 Haha np, I sticked at WR til around 75, and went Jesters til then. h0tbeast121 Just out of curiousity, how would using a lvl 80 2h be more beneficial? I don't understand that o: And the fact finding a nicely scrolled LB is hard, lol. parsapwner1 lmao didn't think it was that good o: Its got 1 hammer on it >.< And how bout other swords, like Dragon Carabella and reverse? Are they fast as well? Off-Topic : How much would the shield cost? 20att 1 hammer used :| [/quote] Thanks :d

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yuseung999 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SweetTeaMob : lol You already finished the hard part which is getting a decent att shield. 1H+AttShield is ideal for an endgame set up due to speed of att. Not to mention now with potential scrolls 1h+Shield have even more of an advantage since it's two items that can both get potential stats. You should be careful about most of the replies here lol. I don't think half of them read your post. Also to the guy that said LB+Shield is endgame yes this is true, but the LB is not a sword that anyone can get anymore unless Nexon brings back a 2+ Year old event(doubt it). The ideal endgame set up for a 1H user will either be a Perfect RK w/Godly potential stats or a Perfect Reverse w/Godly potential stats. IMO I'd wait on the Reverse since I'm pretty sure Timeless gear is going to be more doable after the BB patch. [/quote] Thanks you very much for the advice. Speaking of fast swords, is the dragon carabella a fast sword as well? Also, what would the ideal "godly" RK be?

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taleko 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pokey Pokey: Warrior section is a better place for this, it will give you better answers. Now Pre-BB i'd be looking at getting rid of that maple shield (assumed), its a low level weapon which wont work well with potential, sell it now, maker a few high level warrior shields and try to scroll one to about 10 weapon attack (nothing major) then potential it (big boost and you wil have made a profit) I'd even look at swallowing your pride and getting a 2h reverse for the time being, now yes its a slower weapon but with the current event you can scroll one very well for next to nothing, then you will have plenty of money to work on getting a high level shield with potential then eventually a good 1h sword with potential, as it stands now you've blown over 2b for something that is like what 13% of your total damage equips? As it stands in terms of cost efficiency: 2h is better (by a huge margin since the event) As it stands in terms of damage potential (excuse the pun) 1h is better

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SweetTeaMob + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It would make absolutely no sense going 1h which is the ideal path for Hero just to go to the weaker 2h lol. Obviously he has no issue with merching to bette rhis gear sice he saved up for the 1h shield. It's not hard to scroll a decent 1h sword. Either way if you put a 115/12 RK+20att shield against a high att 2h sword the RK+Shield will win lol.

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GreenPlanet 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

let me give you some real advice. 1h+shield is indeed better for dpm, if you want to go for dpm i suggest 1h+shield. since you cannot get lunch box anymore and u want the best dpm, you will have to get a perfect red katana. red katana speed is fast(4) where most 1h swords is fast(5). i better suggest a perfect 2h stonetooth becuase not only that its fast(5), it has more reach and splash and beneficial for bf ks wars which is the main reason i am switching over.

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maxhubert 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

2h is better now with the potential gears since the 2h multiplier is greater then the speed multiplier of 1h sword. if u have 8.3% more total attack with ur 2h sword normal 6, vs ur 1h RK + shield, the 2h is better and now with the 2h wep 50% atk scroll, its way easier to do. so lets say u have a setup of 120 RK + 20 atk shield = 140 atk 140 + 10 MoN + 10 belt + 20 cider + 16 wg + 10 PaC + whatever so about 200 attack, means u need only 16 atk more on a reverse nibelhim to beat a 120 RK + 20 Shield so a 156 Nibelheim beats it... but a 20 atk shield and a 120 RK is probly around 3 billions each so 6 billions total a 156 nibelheim with 50% scroll is probly way easier to get... and if u add in the potential gears with % total atk and % str and stuff, u need an even lower nibelheim to beat the RK+ shield because the 2h multiplier > fast 4 multiplier

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imkookineggs + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SweetTeaMob : It would make absolutely no sense going 1h which is the ideal path for Hero just to go to the weaker 2h lol. Obviously he has no issue with merching to bette rhis gear sice he saved up for the 1h shield. It's not hard to scroll a decent 1h sword. Either way if you put a 115/12 RK+20att shield against a high att 2h sword the RK+Shield will win lol. [/quote] But this is the era of 50% scrolls. If you can get a godly enough 2h for bossing anyways... 2h would win. The ideal situation here would use 1h for training and possibly bossing, but when your bossing with SI (speed infusion) its better to use 2h with a higher attack than the 1h. or what the guy above me said ^^^

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SweetTeaMob + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The only 2h swords that are fast are the Stonetooth and the Night Raven's wing. Both fast5 The RK is a fast4 sword which is ideal for att speed, but might not be so wonderful on potential stats. The Dragon Carabella and the Reverse executioner are both Fast5. They are matched by the two mentioned fast5 2h swords, but take the shield potential/att into consideration also. Somethin people seem to be ignorant to is also 2h swords or any item made with a 2h50% scroll will end up lacking in the end. YES they are easier to make, but think of it like this a 156att 2h Reverse Vs 156/27Str 1h Reverse+20Att/however much str sheild lol. The str bonus from the 1h will win that fight. Since it's the str multi. that made 2h better in dmg to begin with xD.. 0STR bonus in the "Era of 50% scrolls" = really fail dmg compared to REAL perfect swords lol.

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ComboHunter 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1HANDED > 2handed due to potential

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yuseung999 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thanks for all the comments guys, read everything LOL. @ Talekah Yes, my bad sorry. Also, when should I swap from 1h to 2h then? When's a good time? >< And also still, P/c on the 20 att 1 hammer Maple shield?

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makkemage 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1h coz u got mesos & sheild O.o

Pamoon 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

with a good shield 1 handed pwns specialy with brandish if not then 2

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imkookineggs 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SweetTeaMob : The only 2h swords that are fast are the Stonetooth and the Night Raven's wing. Both fast5 The RK is a fast4 sword which is ideal for att speed, but might not be so wonderful on potential stats. The Dragon Carabella and the Reverse executioner are both Fast5. They are matched by the two mentioned fast5 2h swords, but take the shield potential/att into consideration also. Somethin people seem to be ignorant to is also 2h swords or any item made with a 2h50% scroll will end up lacking in the end. YES they are easier to make, but think of it like this a 156att 2h Reverse Vs 156/27Str 1h Reverse+20Att/however much str sheild lol. The str bonus from the 1h will win that fight. Since it's the str multi. that made 2h better in dmg to begin with xD.. 0STR bonus in the "Era of 50% scrolls" = really fail dmg compared to REAL perfect swords lol. [/quote] Yes but we're not comparing a 156 reverse 2h vs a 156/27str 1h reverse. In order to get something like that for 1h is 100x harder than getting it for 2h and with SI 2h + 1h have the same speed. So honestly if your gonna pull comparing perfect equips the attainability of an almost perfect to perfect 2h reverse is much higher than a close to perfect 1h in the era of 50% scrolls... Oh and if your gona pull that "50ish" strength is higher than the multiplier... I think someone should check their math...

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taleko 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SweetTeaMob : The only 2h swords that are fast are the Stonetooth and the Night Raven's wing. Both fast5 The RK is a fast4 sword which is ideal for att speed, but might not be so wonderful on potential stats. The Dragon Carabella and the Reverse executioner are both Fast5. They are matched by the two mentioned fast5 2h swords, but take the shield potential/att into consideration also. Somethin people seem to be ignorant to is also 2h swords or any item made with a 2h50% scroll will end up lacking in the end. YES they are easier to make, but think of it like this a 156att 2h Reverse Vs 156/27Str 1h Reverse+20Att/however much str sheild lol. The str bonus from the 1h will win that fight. Since it's the str multi. that made 2h better in dmg to begin with xD.. 0STR bonus in the "Era of 50% scrolls" = really fail dmg compared to REAL perfect swords lol. [/quote] erm, just throwing a few things out there, guess at the pricing difference between those 2 setups, also the str on those setups isnt really that significant, what 37 str in that instance when you are talking of a total str of over 1000? really think hard about the pricing difference then come back to me.

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