BM versus MM add on

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thread starter Assasin1109 Aug 15 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok so i saw in another Thread that a guy was doign math and such with the whole BB patch and Ultimate strafe. And turns out that MM are Mathematically stronger. However i was thinking that due to the FA being used in all 4 job skills, that since US is a 1 press skill attack firing 4 arrows? i believe? having a 1 40% chance to shoot FA afterwards how ever Hurricane Has the ability to shoot 1 arrow Sparately although holding down the button. That gives BMs the ability to shoot 40% chance of each arrow 8.33 arrows persecond. Is this right? Shooting a barrage of FA arrows?

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McAwesomesauce 08/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ultimate Strafe fires 6 arrows and doesn't activate Final Attack. I'd edit this post with a link to SP to confirm but for some stupid reason that's not allowed.

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leannesama + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] McAwesomesauce : Ultimate Strafe fires 6 arrows and doesn't activate Final Attack. I'd edit this post with a link to SP to confirm but for some stupid reason that's not allowed. [/quote] ul strafe isn't a new skill, it's a upgrade to your original strafe, the skill FA and compatibility with strafe doesn't change

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Assasin1109 08/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So it is possible to shoot FA arrows

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leannesama + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Assasin1109 : So it is possible to shoot FA arrows [/quote] Yes it's possible, if you want further proof here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGHAIH6ZelI What changed now is that criticals are multiplicative, so it's not exactly like if you attack fast the criticals will help you more, basically now criticals are more like if you do slow and more dmg you will receive larger crit dmg and if you do fast and weak dmg you will receive weak criticals the ratio is the same really anyways. A simple way is like 1:1(normal) or 2:2(crit) the ratio always the same as 1:1 anyways Here is proof that criticals are multiplicative: http://www.s0uthperry.net/showthread.php?t=29250&highlight=multiplicative+critical < change 0 to o

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Jacob107878 08/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Assasin1109 : So it is possible to shoot FA arrows [/quote] I wish :P. No delay arrows ftw.

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cableguy23 08/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm a hunter and this is prof after bb tht at 200 a bm hits 80 k per arrow at 12 arrows a sec and a marksmen at 200 hits 70 k eit us and 500 k with pierce and they get 8.777 arrows a sec

leannesama + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] cableguy23 : I'm a hunter and this is prof after bb tht at 200 a bm hits 80 k per arrow at 12 arrows a sec and a marksmen at 200 hits 70 k eit us and 500 k with pierce and they get 8.777 arrows a sec [/quote] equips doesn't matter, if you compare just videos unfairly. Math in calculations is solid fact rather than what you see in videos. In terms of raw damge if I gave the same equipment to both bm and mm, a mm would obviously do more considering the xbow has a larger weapon multiplier, either way it doesn't matter really, if you want a good dps/dpm bowman just go wild hunter then. Both can't really compare with wild shot and the other buffs. Besides that with hurricane alone it's still 8.33333 arrows per second, that skyshooter just posted a random post on basil, you can search up his thread on s0uthperry, there wasn't even any confirmation, rather only to be disproved by the resolution of the video compare to real game. Either way the other guy said MM are only stronger with SI, what are the chances that you get si lol? I have like what 2 buccs in my expeditions for bosses per week and I do daily bossing. Why do you think that warriors still use Rk?

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cableguy23 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Bm= win mm= fail nuff said...

samevil 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

MM= win BM= fail

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cableguy23 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Mm= uber fail. Bm= epic win. And umm cloud villan = epic epic uber super fail

chessguy4 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Actually, Hurricane shoots 16.666667 arrows/second, and about 23.3333335 arrows/second if you add on the FA arrows.

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mrzackfair 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] chessguy4 : Actually, Hurricane shoots 16.666667 arrows/second, and about 23.3333335 arrows/second if you add on the FA arrows. [/quote] Very wrong. That was just a rumor. Hurricane fires at normal speed. And that guy who did the calculations DID include FA, for every arrow. That's why they were firing 200 extra arrows, instead of 38 with the Ultimate Strafe, which is also 6 arrows, not 4 arrows. http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1655158/0/Which_is_better_BM_or_MM_Find_Out_Here.html# And Marksmen are only stronger when provided Speed Infusion, which isn't readily available.

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cableguy23 08/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Soo what ur saying is bm win mm fial

chessguy4 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

mrzackfair Actually, I'm pretty 99% sure it has doubled. I remember seeing a thread or two somewhere where a guy had proof. I don't remember where the proof was, sorry. Here is one of those threads. Edit: Re-read some of your post. He did not include FA.

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