Red Surfboard Vs Maple Karstan
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thread starter dragonforce327 Aug 14 2010
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| Which one would've been better? A 122Atk RedSurfboard or a 105Atk Maple Karstan? Both have 0slots. |
My Characters: ArchStr - 80 Khaini Marauder
plain88 08/14/10
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| [quote] icec0ldkila : RSB is better, its slow (7) while karstan is slow(8). Some do not understand that there are more than just 1 slow speed. I think that a RSB goes through 40 full swings, while a karstan goes through 42. I'm pretty suure on the RSB but not 100% sure about the 40 swings, but slow (8) does 36 swings. You won't notice 2 swings when your training due to running around. The attack on the RSB is superior. Just would like to note that you need 173 acc to hit OB4 100% of the time, at all levels. [/quote] Karstan is normal speed. |
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chunkyivionkey 08/14/10
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iman24th 08/14/10
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| [quote] icec0ldkila : RSB is better, its slow (7) while karstan is slow(8). Some do not understand that there are more than just 1 slow speed. I think that a RSB goes through 40 full swings, while a karstan goes through 42. I'm pretty suure on the RSB but not 100% sure about the 40 swings, but slow (8) does 36 swings. You won't notice 2 swings when your training due to running around. The attack on the RSB is superior. Just would like to note that you need 173 acc to hit OB4 100% of the time, at all levels. [/quote] fail post |
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raymond10123
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| [quote] icec0ldkila : Karstan is better, its normal (6) while rsb is slow(7). Some do not understand that just 1 slow speed signifgantly matters to arans, but not any other warrior. The attack on the RSB is superior, but the karstan's speed makes it better. Just would like to note that you need 173 acc to hit OB4 100% of the time, for anyone above 131. [/quote] Fixed it for you, your welcome |
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aznstyles 08/14/10
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| 17atk doesnt make up for 1speed |
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LordPsych 08/14/10
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| you COULD make a speed infusion mule and then the surfboard would be better but ehh that's hard. |
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icec0ldkila
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| Without Final attack (applicable for attacks such as brandish, blast, ACB, Sacrifice, etc) Fast(4) - ~100 Fast(5) - ~90 Normal(6) - ~82 Slow(7) - ~80 Slow(8) - ~74 Slower(9) - ~69 Which is taken from the warrior weapon comparison. If maple wasn't down right now I would go on to test how much full swings the RSB gives, but i know with 100% certainty that a normal weapon, a karstan, does 42 full swings, while a slow (8) does 36. And I was pretty sure, not 100%, that a slow (7) did 40 swings. If you really want me to I can take the ranges of somebody with both these weapons, and factor in the damage range and swings. EDIT: Here they are This is the same aran with no equips, 400 base str and 40 base dex. 1366~2489 Avg = 1923 1176~2142 Avg = 1659 40 swings slow (7) 42 swings normal (8) Yes these include booster. The RSB would need to bring the damage range 4.76% to be on par with the karstan. The RSB is actually 13.73% better in this case. Yes it builds combo faster, but people should note that you will hardly ever be spamming full swing/overswing at all times without moving. Don't say something until your prepared to back it up with proof. This is without any additional equips, which would just benefit the RSB more since attack goes a further distance when the STR to WA ratio increases. |
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dragonforce327
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| Oh well thanks guys*, anyways...I just blew up my 105Atk Karstan yesterday with the second equip enhancement scroll I used on it...soo all I have now is a 97atk RSB 7slots, 98ATK RSB 6Slots, 90atk 2 slots (o.e) and a 122Atk RSB 0slots :o |
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icec0ldkila
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| Oh well that settles that debate lol. And yes I did screw up in my first initial post, I have dyslexia but I went back and fixed it, and then added the numbers. Dam dragon i wish you were on my server I'm looking to buy an RSB, blew up my 118 att with a equip enh. scroll. |
My Characters: KingTurtIe - 132 Broa Aran in Hope
KARMACHARGEz 08/14/10
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| offtopic---what att karstan/arc would i need to match a 106 att fast speed super snowboard? thanks |
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icec0ldkila
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| [quote] KARMACHARGEz : offtopic---what att karstan/arc would i need to match a 106 att fast speed super snowboard? thanks [/quote] I'd do the numbers for you if I could but I've never gotten my hands on a fast snow/surfboard to really find out how much swings it does. If you can give me a number per minute, that would be great. |
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dragonforce327 08/14/10
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| Iunno maybe 135+Attack karstan/arcglaive? Just guessing tho o.o icec0ldkila lol I wouldn't want to be in Broa tho...BF PoPos D: |
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KARMACHARGEz 08/14/10
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icec0ldkila
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| [quote] dragonforce327 : Iunno maybe 135+Attack karstan/arcglaive? Just guessing tho o.o icec0ldkila lol I wouldn't want to be in Broa tho...BF PoPos D: [/quote] I don't blame you lol. BF police is just a bunch of people with nothing better to do than ruin the game for others. Good thing about it is knowing they can get banned for it lol. Also I might not be back on basil for an hour or so, just PM me the fast speed swings, you can time yourself for 1 full minute or 10 seconds then multiply by 6. Do a couple to make sure you get the same number. I will then give you the answer then post it here as well, I'm curious to what % better you'd need too. |
My Characters: KingTurtIe - 132 Broa Aran in Hope
raymond10123 08/14/10
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| [quote] icec0ldkila : The RSB is actually 13.73% better in this case. Yes it builds combo faster, but people should note that you will hardly ever be spamming full swing/overswing at all times without moving. Don't say something until your prepared to back it up with proof. This is without any additional equips, which would just benefit the RSB more since attack goes a further distance when the STR to WA ratio increases. [/quote] Lets see, Gallos training, Zak, Scar, Targa, Griffey, Mannon, Pap, Pianus, Bf, Hh, Capt Lantica. Also I personally tested at 120 using my 95/8 fail karstan and my friends 127 Zedbug, and I killed a HH about 15 seconds faster with the Karstan, and on a separate note, I also found that pinning and keeping a boss kbed with a slower weapon is much harder which also interfears with kill time, about twice hh just walked right through my attacks. |
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