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thread starter Absylus Aug 14 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[V2.2] [ ! ] ---------------------------------------- FOR FUTURE POSTERS ---------------------------------------- [ ! ] If you are going to write something here, please be sure to read over what I have said at the top and bottom of this post first . This is not an official guide and is up only for discussion purposes. Thank you. [ ! ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ ! ] Using ideas posted by other users from my previous thread and this thread as a promising reference I have been planning a theoretical Skill Build for Archers after the Big Bang patch in GMS. If you will not be one to ask the question "What do I put up now ?" after the BB patch, then you probably already know what to put up and your knowledge/reasoning would be appreciated. Things to note: - This is not necessarily a guide , it is more of me posting up a build and asking if it makes sense for after the BB patch. - Based on Basil's main source of Big Bang information, every Archer and Hunter/Crossbowman skill can be maxed by Lvl 70 with the exception of one of the Archer's attacking skills; either Double Shot or Arrow Blow; which will be at 2. As for 3rd Job skills before Lvl 120, they can all be maxed as well with the exception of one (this can vary). - Again, this is not a public guide, it is simply my concoction created from questions and a multitude of answers. - For the build listed below, it is simply a summation, not and ordered build; as in it is not in order. - I will say this one last time to get it through the heads of the ignorant: this is not a build meant to be taken seriously . Thus, the "theory" in the title. I thought this was obvious but apparently people click on threads without reading their titles. UPDATE: I have posted a more guide-friendly version near the bottom of this post. See this section for details. ----- (Be sure to look at this thread , once again, before you go judging certain actions.) This is the outline so far ( SKILLS ARE NOT IN ORDER ): .:: Archer (By Level 30) [ ! ] You could also follow this but swap Arrow Blow and Double Shot. - Critical Shot (+20) ... 20/20 - Eye of the Amazon (+5) ... 5/5 - Focus (+15) ... 15/15 - Arrow Blow (+20) ... 20/20 - Double Shot (+1) ... 1/20 or - Arrow Blow (+1) ... 1/20 - Double Shot (+20) ... 20/20 [ ! ] All 61/61 SP used - all Archer skills maxed, except Double Shot (1/20). ----- SKILLS ARE NOT IN ORDER in this section these are just summations ----- .:: Hunter (By Level 70) - Bow Mastery (+20) ... 20/20 - Final Attack: Bow (+20) ... 20/20 - Improved Fundamentals (+10) ... 10/10 - Bow Booster (+20) ... 20/20 - Power Knockback (+20) ... 20/20 - Soul Arrow: Bow (+10) ... 10/10 - Arrow Bomb (+20) ... 20/20 [ ! ] Only 120/121 SP used - all Hunter skills maxed. - Double Shot (+1) ... 2/20 [ ! ] All 121/121 SP used - all Archer and Hunter skills maxed, except Double Shot (2/20). ----- SKILLS ARE NOT IN ORDER in this section these are just

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45642156 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Under xbowman you said hunter skills but I think it is a fair build, somewhere I heard that double shot mobs now though, not sure if it's true, might want to take that into consideration. Edit: It was probably wrong.

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Absylus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 45642156 : Under xbowman you said hunter skills but I think it is a fair build, somewhere I heard that double shot mobs now though, not sure if it's true, might want to take that into consideration. [/quote] Thanks I fixed the Hunter thing. I'm going by the this thread right now, and it says nothing about Double Shot. Either way, it's either Double Shot or Arrow Blow that an Archer will use; so just simply replace it. On that note though, if Double Shot mobs even 2 I think it would be better than Arrow Blow.

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Kevvl 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

There's really only two builds now until 70. You get Double Shot. Or you don't. Arrow Blow has the advantage of early mobbing, But you get Arrow Bomb / Iron Arrow later anyway.

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Absylus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kevvl : There's really only two builds now until 70. You get Double Shot. Or you don't. Arrow Blow has the advantage of early mobbing, But you get Arrow Bomb / Iron Arrow later anyway. [/quote] That's what I figured. So aside from mobbing, Double Shot is better? I guess it would be better for one-on-one, but Strafe would replace it in 3rd job. That would be better than going with Arrow Blow and having it replaced 40 levels earlier, though. I guess it depends on which levels you faster in the begging as they both seem like "ladder" skills.

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iSpiffster 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Do snipers not need 15 golden eagle minimum, to get Frostprey? And also, do snipers get dodge as well? I thought it was a new ranger exclusive skill. :3 Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Absylus 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iSpiffster : Do snipers not need 15 golden eagle minimum, to get Frostprey? And also, do snipers get dodge as well? I thought it was a new ranger exclusive skill. :3 Please correct me if I'm wrong. [/quote] According to kruimel0 and his BB guide both the Ranger and the Sniper get dodge. :o Aside from that, I was not aware of 4th Job summons. Are these actually important? If so, I guess the summons for 3rd Job are even more pointless, yet should still be set to 15, which means 4 points from somewhere else... Hmm.

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JPanda + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

...umm u kinda need silver/golden hawk for pheonix and frostprey, and from what i see, pheonix and frostprey are pretty usefull EDIT: Ninja'd

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[quote] Absylus : According to kruimel0 and his BB guide both the Ranger and the Sniper get dodge. :o Aside from that, I was not aware of 4th Job summons. Are these actually important? If so, I guess the summons for 3rd Job are even more pointless, yet should still be set to 15, which means 4 points from somewhere else... Hmm. [/quote] A certain site, which has someone who does extractions, says otherwise :| As much as I would love dodge on a sniper, most extractions don't have dodge as a sniper skill. Then again, I never really got a straight answer from anyone yet, so I may be wrong. I'm just ... totally confused D: Edit: Aren't blizzard/inferno 30 skill points to max? Unless it was changed in the BB patch, which would make me even more confused.

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1337azn + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iSpiffster : Do snipers not need 15 golden eagle minimum, to get Frostprey? And also, do snipers get dodge as well? I thought it was a new ranger exclusive skill. :3 Please correct me if I'm wrong. [/quote] We actually DO need 15 points in the birds as you have said. [quote] iSpiffster : A certain site, which has someone who does extractions, says otherwise :| As much as I would love dodge on a sniper, most extractions don't have dodge as a sniper skill. Then again, I never really got a straight answer from anyone yet, so I may be wrong. I'm just ... totally confused D: Edit: Aren't blizzard/inferno 30 skill points to max? Unless it was changed in the BB patch, which would make me even more confused. [/quote] Snipers do get dodge according to the guide here on BasilMarket, but that may or may not be accurate. And here's the guide to changes. Guide on BasilMarket Nice guide. So there are only two paths. Doubt either will matter in the higher levels, but arrow blow might be faster for leveling since it has a mobbish effect.

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iSpiffster 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Mkk I stand corrected. Thanks 1337azn Also, I think that I did see something about blizzard being 20 points to max now, so disregard that. Nice guide so far Work on 4th job now~!

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BlizzardSwarm 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You could take a few points from thrust and make up for it with some speed equips to get hawk/eagle to 15.

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Absylus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] JPanda : ...umm u kinda need silver/golden hawk for pheonix and frostprey, and from what i see, pheonix and frostprey are pretty usefull EDIT: Ninja'd [/quote] Yeah I just looked up the skill requirements, and to my dismay, I found that you in fact need the 3rd Job summons at Lvl 15 in order to get the 4th Job ones. This goes for BMs and MMs. This might create some variation. [quote] iSpiffster : A certain site, which has someone who does extractions, says otherwise :| As much as I would love dodge on a sniper, most extractions don't have dodge as a sniper skill. Then again, I never really got a straight answer from anyone yet, so I may be wrong. I'm just ... totally confused D: [/quote] I'm confused too haha. I'm just going by kruimel0's stuff right now. We'll never really know 100% until Nexon actually patches GMS. [quote] 1337azn : Snipers do get dodge. Source: MapleStory Guide: KMS Big Bang Revamp Nice guide. So there are only two paths. Doubt either will matter in the higher levels, but arrow blow might be faster for leveling since it has a mobbish effect. [/quote] Well it wasn't meant to be a guide but thanks. And yeah, it's pretty simple now apparently. [quote] BlizzardSwarm : You could take a few points from thrust and make up for it with some speed equips to get hawk/eagle to 15. [/quote] Yeah that's what I was thinking, because I'm guessing at 30 Speed maxed, Thrust will give 3 Speed per Level. Take away 4 Levels, you still have 6 * 3 = 18 Speed. I know for a fact that it's not very hard to gain another 22 Speed in equips; the Engaw itself gives 12 for example. Plus, there's also Speed Pills which give 10.

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1337azn 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iSpiffster : Also, I think that I did see something about blizzard being 20 points to max now, so disregard that. Nice guide so far Work on 4th job now~! [/quote] See my above post. Edited it three times to fix it lawl... Like iSpiffster said, this is an awesome guide. Hope to see the fourth jobs since I'm almost there.

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Torchic 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Er, do BMs need to add to strafe...? We already have hurricane. o-o

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