Post big bang are you kidding?

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thread starter iflyowls Aug 09 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So i heard that the Big Bang patch will change whether you are able to hit a monster or not. Any monster that is below your level you will be able to hit it automatically. For every level that the monster is higher than your level there will be a 5% miss rate. Dex and Acc does not affect this. Nexon will NOT be giving anyone ap resets, so are reg dex and low dex warriors pretty much screwed? Warriors do not need dex for most of their equips so dex is pretty much useless? I have a page with 20 dex and I'm wondering wether I should just wait for the BigBang to come and remake my page.

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Irony 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iflyowls : So if I were to continue my page, when should i cap it's dex? [/quote] 4. Or as low as you can.

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kollister 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Remedy : Dex Equips are NOT useless. They still improve your accuracy, just not in such great amounts. It still helps, and you will still want to add SOME dex as a warrior. [/quote] Actually, there will pretty much be no need in dex for a warrior. The mastery now gives 60 accuracy, more then enough to hit with these new changes.

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JustAKid 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So that's the new formula... well that pretty much screws up all training methods now. Hmm... I wanna see pq enemies get affected by this.

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Synapsiis 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] markedmask : The big bang comes with an optional COMPLETE stat and AP reset, for everyone. [/quote] actually, it doesn't. you get one (and only one, maybe another if the same event deal happens) full SP reset, and that's it.

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iflyowls 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] markedmask : The big bang comes with an optional COMPLETE stat and AP reset, for everyone. [/quote] They are only giving away a full sp reset.

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Synapsiis 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kollister : Actually, there will pretty much be no need in dex for a warrior. The mastery now gives 60 accuracy, more then enough to hit with these new changes. [/quote] this, with the exception of PB and one or two monsters. PB needs 625 acc after BB to hit 100% at it's level

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NetherRoam 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Synapsiis : actually, it doesn't. you get one (and only one, maybe another if the same event deal happens) full SP reset, and that's it. [/quote] accrodign to spadow he said that u get 3 total sp reset scrolls http://spadow.wordpress.com/2010/07/03/kmst-v323-sp-reset-scrolls/#more-5570 <pics included

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gtbROX 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Some of the above posters simply don't use their brains.... Think about it, you're lv 65 and you're completely bored of mp3 or wherever you were training before so you want to move to windraiders. Wait! You're 5 levels under them though...so you'll miss 25% of the time for sure? No, since acc/dex still plays a role in accuracy, having high acc will allow you to do better than hitting only 75% of the time. Idk about you guys, but when I was training on my aran and pally I'd always push for the next higher level spot, even if they were a couple levels above me, and if I ever make another warrior class I'll do the same.

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Dusekkar 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] NetherRoam : accrodign to spadow he said that u get 3 total sp reset scrolls http://spadow.wordpress.com/2010/07/03/kmst-v323-sp-reset-scrolls/#more-5570 <pics included [/quote] That was Tespia. He said KMS only get's one, but they can get more by logging on during a certain time.

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DreamNeku 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Bye Typhons

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Chris112408E 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iflyowls : They are only giving away a full sp reset. [/quote] oh crap, no AP resets. Guess my lowdex CB is screwed?

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BeastLink + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BigBangThread : HitRate = sqrt(YourAcc) - sqrt(MonsterAvoid) + 100 sqrt = Square Root However, for every level you are below the monster, there is an extra 5% MISS-rate. This means, to 100% hit a monster, you have to be at or above it's level and your acc should be the same or more as the monster's avoid. Avoid rate for some mobs: Mob Level --> Avoid --> Sqrt(Avoid) 11-20 --> 1 --> 1 21-30 --> 4 --> 2 31-40 --> 8 --> 2.83 (would be 3 if Avoid was 9) 41-50 --> 16 --> 4 41-60 --> 25 --> 5 61-70 --> 36 --> 6 71-80 --> 49 --> 7 81-90 --> 64 --> 8 91-100 --> 81 --> 9 101-110 --> 100 --> 10 (Zakum: 144/12) 111-120 --> 121 --> 11 121-140 --> 144 --> 12 141-160 --> 169 --> 13 160+ --> 225 --> 15 (Pink Bean: 625/25) [/quote] The 5% miss rate per level, if I read this correctly, is unchangeable: no matter how much dex you have, you cannot reduce that. But accuracy still is required to hit monsters, as the formula shows.

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anthonylee 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

NO LISTIN!@@@@@@@ say your a warrior. and your dex is 4 and your level 30. you will hit anythings below your level. but if the monster is lv 50, it's not really going to work out On the other hand. id your dex is 60 in your level 30. You will still have a higher chance to it the monster. meaning dex still plays a big part for fast training. dex gives accuracy. they only made it easier warriors, since they're accuracy is always soooo low.

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StiKman19 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Everyone holding a stonetooth is feeling pretty good right now.

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iflyowls 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BeastLink : The 5% miss rate per level, if I read this correctly, is unchangeable: no matter how much dex you have, you cannot reduce that. But accuracy still is required to hit monsters, as the formula shows. [/quote] Since dex gives accuracy will low dex warrios not be doomed?

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