Big Bang Barrage Change?

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thread starter gummby8 Aug 07 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDhd8yx5yJc&feature=related He has the Dice buff so it is after the patch. Look at 1:40 He uses barrage, but notice how the damage is normalized with every hit. It doesn't hit harder for the last two. If that is true barrage actually got nerfed. Confirmed again at 1:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y70CGtpw42k The old mechanic the last 2 hits hit for x2 and x4 for a total of %2300 The new is just 6 straight for %2172 *sigh*

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MastaSella + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yes, Barrage was changed to hit 1x 1x 1x 1x 1x 1x instead of 1x 1x 1x 1x 2x 4x. That doesn't necessarily mean we'll do less damage. Remember, everyone will hit higher after the Big Bang.

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gummby8 08/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

We will hit harder because of the new damage formulas, yet still most mobs are given Def or HP to compensate for this. In the end Buccs did get a very large overall buff. We get the best damage formula buff (next to NL) and most skills do go up in damage. I guess this thread is more to just say that despite the damage % per hit going up on barrage it's overall damage will remain largely unchanged.

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Agurazium 08/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The change to 1x 1x 1x 1x 1x 1x is evened out isnt it? As in instead of it hitting like low everything but the last two, the damage is the same but distributed evenly WITH that barrage damage boost.

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Tersera 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Currently it's 2300% total of all 6 hits. After patch is 362% per hit which is a total of 2172% Only 128% difference but the most importnat thing to notice is that it's spammable. So over time, the after patch change will improve dpm.

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MastaSella 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Tersera : Currently it's 2300% total of all 6 hits. After patch is 362% per hit which is a total of 2172% Only 128% difference but the most importnat thing to notice is that it's spammable. So over time, the after patch change will improve dpm. [/quote] That was was changed and it is no longer spammable. We don't need to hit 2x and 4x on the last hits anyways. The new damage formulas and % damage boost on Barrage is enough.

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Tersera + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MastaSella : That was was changed and it is no longer spammable. We don't need to hit 2x and 4x on the last hits anyways. The new damage formulas and % damage boost on Barrage is enough. [/quote] Meh who cares? Demo = defense piercing. So compared to other classes, possibly able to deal higher damage due to the 25% boss damage reduction whereas demolition is unaffected.

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xxclericxx 08/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't know if I should be sad or happy about this patch yet

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mayood 08/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

so after the patch will barrage be spammable? if it was bf is dead for good almost 2 mins kill after the patch if barrage is spammable ofcourse so if we can spam barrage i think it will be alot easier :D

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MastaSella 08/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] mayood : so after the patch will barrage be spammable? if it was bf is dead for good almost 2 mins kill after the patch if barrage is spammable ofcourse so if we can spam barrage i think it will be alot easier :D [/quote] Read the posts. No it won't be. Even if we could spam Barrage, that wouldn't change the speed of which we kill BF. BF still has its iframes.

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ScrubsGuy 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It looks like we can still dragon dance =] I'm a lot happier with this patch than I was in the beginning. I didn't want a spammable barrage, and I wanted to still have iFrames.

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Feeling 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The Big Bang removed the delay on pretty much all of our skills, but in return weakened them too. Barrage wasn't that weakened, but Dragon Strike went from 810% to like 5xx% (Confirm Pl0x :D)

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MastaSella + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Feeling : The Big Bang removed the delay on pretty much all of our skills, but in return weakened them too. Barrage wasn't that weakened, but Dragon Strike went from 810% to like 5xx% (Confirm Pl0x :D) [/quote] The majority of our attacks will be stronger. The only attacks that are nerfed are Shockwave (600%), Dragon Strike (700%), Snatch (570%), and Energy Orb (780%). There's basically no downside for Buccaneers at all after this patch.

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gummby8 08/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Exactly. Yo ualso have to remember that we will be in transform/ST mode 90% of the time from now on, giving us a decent damage boost. Pluss we will have counter attack, more damage boost. AND buce got the second highest multiplier out of any class in the new damage formula. while every other class is in teh 1.3-1.4 range buccs are up at 1.7 HUGE damage boost. Calculated with the new formula my top end went from 5404 to 7704 that is with 0 buffs. Add 60 wep att for charge and ST 11054. That isn't even taking into consideration that I have yet to add potential to my gear yet. I expect my bucc to do 2x the damage I see now.

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