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ST or Nibleim

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thread starter DarkKraft101 Aug 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hello, I have given a little thought about what my end game weapon would be, and concluded that I am not going 1-handed anytime soon. That being said, I want to either with an ST or Nibleim (However you spell it). For those of you who dont know, a Stonetooth Sword is a level 100 fast speed 2-handed sword, and a Nibliheim is a reverse Normal sword. I have a tough time deciding which one would be more worth it to make. Which one would cost more? Which has better DPM (in terms of how much att would the nibeleim have to be to equal a stonetooths DPM). Thanx in Advance!`

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BluntyMsPage 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

do you have enough dex to equip a ST if not get a nibleheim

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DarkKraft101 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

44 base dex, 97 from equips, But im getting some Dex equips so yea I have enough

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Sharpie 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Once you equip the Nibleim you can't trade it. Make sure it's forsure your end game.

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VulcanWalker 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The Reverse Nibleheim clean has a higher DPM than a clean ST, and doesn't require any dex. If a Clean ST were to match a normal swords DPM, then the normal speed sword would need 110.09 attack. 113 attack being the minimum for a Reverse Nibleheim (avg + advanced diamond) it beats the ST's DPM without needing dex. So the Nibleheim has a 6 w.att and 116 str advantage to the ST. That's assuming the lost dex transfers over to str.

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DarkKraft101 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@VulcanWalker Yea That makes sense. I have 15 AP resets left And if I ditch my Night Ravens wing id be stuck with my 109 att sunrise >.>

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Deeena 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

with potential scrolls going 1h+shield is not that bad.. I had 136 atk nible with 9% all stat and I broke it.. decided to go 1h+shield and my ranger is higher than what I had with my nible. and my 1h+shield combo isn't really that godly.. 9% 10atk all stat shield 3% 3% all stat 12atk 112 clean exctioner is apparently better than my 136 9% stat nible...

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AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] VulcanWalker : The Reverse Nibleheim clean has a higher DPM than a clean ST, and doesn't require any dex. If a Clean ST were to match a normal swords DPM, then the normal speed sword would need 110.09 attack. 113 attack being the minimum for a Reverse Nibleheim (avg + advanced diamond) it beats the ST's DPM without needing dex. So the Nibleheim has a 6 w.att and 116 str advantage to the ST. That's assuming the lost dex transfers over to str. [/quote] ...You didnt bother to factor in the fact that a ST's speed advantage is greater with more Watt. Not to mention, you need to factor in other sources of Watt. While a 101 ST may be weaker, than a clean nibleheim. A 120 ST can rival a 140 Niblehim. Just some examples: Running around naked: 120 ST = 130 RN With +70 Watt 120 ST = 137 RN With +150 Watt (appled) 120 ST = 144 RN. However, if you do have SI, the Nibleheim will be superior, but most people will rarely be buffed with SI.

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xmyfirstdkx 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Depends on your funding. I suggest you go Stonetooth because you can sell it once you're sick with it, unlike the Nibleheim. Scrolling is another factor, you'll regret scrolling your nibelheim if a slot fails, and you can't sell it. The additional accuracy you gain from raising your dex helps a LOT. Hope I helped.

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xhong 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

wait how did you get 9% all stat on a shield? o.o what lvl shield? my current set-up is a 141atk 20str H unleveled 30% damage on boss executioner. what shield should i make and what would be good?

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Deeena 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Im using blue hoffy.. gotta scroll it up to 18 atk tho...

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DarkKraft101 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Alright I'll try to afford and scroll an ST, or buy if I have the right money. Thx Guys/Deena

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bello99 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I would go with the reverse a very cheap weapon to make good and with potential you can make it even better made my 130 attack for about 40m scrolled it twice with enhancemnets and potenitaled it. it is now 154 attack total cost of scrolling about 85m. however in order for it to be that cheap you need to find the PoTs yourself which if you train within the time temple its not a problem at all.

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AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] bello99 : I would go with the reverse a very cheap weapon to make good and with potential you can make it even better made my 130 attack for about 40m scrolled it twice with enhancemnets and potenitaled it. it is now 154 attack total cost of scrolling about 85m. however in order for it to be that cheap you need to find the PoTs yourself which if you train within the time temple its not a problem at all. [/quote] I would still count the value of the PoTs you use in the total cost, even if you did hunt for them. Why? Because that is an item you could sell for a potential profit and you dont get that profit if you use them. Basically, if you have 45 PoTs, you have this choice: Sell for 5-6 mill each, but dont make the weapon. Use them for your weapon, but dont make any profit. Then of course, all reverse equips have one major flaw; you cant resell them.

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KingHippo 08/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I've calculated it and it comes out to ST: 38, Niblheim: 62. The Nibleheim is way better than the ST.