To set the record straight

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thread starter taleko Jul 22 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Updated Hi people, just thought i'd share a few PM's i've received with you. Name was removed for the other users privacy. It goes in chronological order: [quote] NameRemoved : Yes I know this was a while back , BUT It was about the Pally Vs Hero Thread that has been Closed/Locked! BUT As you said,The COMBO for Crusaders is 190% + 30% from Advanced Combo. THAT is completely WRONG. If you look it up in Basil , It it 220 + 30 = 250% Making Hero > Pally. In SOME Situations Pally is great,Better than Heros' , But overall , Heros' have the overall advantage and bashes Pallys heads in. You said that the person you quoted he said he checked up on Hidden-street.com and you said he was COMPELTELY WRONG Why is HIDDEN STREET WRONG? Its been right all these times and now you doubt it? This is what you get. Wrongness,And throughout your posts I see you hate being wrong. But I feel bad for making you realize how stupid you are. Sincerely, Your bestest friend ;] [/quote] [quote] taleko : First of all, ACA at max is 190%, not 190% + 30% or 220 + 30%, hidden street is wrong. I feel bad for putting this back on you but you have to realise how foolish you are looking to me by debating how combo/AC works with a warrior forum regular who knows her stuff, just because i'm nice i'll add in the correct values for you. Combos: 0 1 2 3 4 5 Level 1: 100% 100% 105% 110% Level 2: 100% 104% 109% 113% Level 3: 100% 105% 110% 114% Level 4: 100% 106% 111% 115% Level 5: 100% 107% 112% 117% Level 6: 100% 108% 112% 118% Level 7: 100% 109% 113% 119% Level 8: 100% 110% 114% 120% Level 9: 100% 111% 115% 121% Level 10: 100% 111% 115% 121% Level 11: 100% 112% 117% 122% 127% Level 12: 100% 112% 117% 122% 127% Level 13: 100% 112% 118% 123% 128% Level 14: 100% 112% 118% 123% 128% Level 15: 100% 113% 119% 124% 129% Level 16: 100% 113% 119% 124% 129% Level 17: 100% 114% 120% 125% 130% Level 18: 100% 114% 120% 125% 130% Level 19: 100% 115% 121% 126% 131% Level 20: 100% 115% 121% 126% 131% Level 21: 100% 117% 122% 127% 132% 137% Level 22: 100% 117% 122% 127% 132% 137% Level 23: 100% 117% 122% 127% 132% 137% Level 24: 100% 118% 123% 128% 133% 138% Level 25: 100% 118% 123% 128% 133% 138% Level 26: 100% 118% 123% 128% 133% 138% Level 27: 100% 119% 124% 129% 134% 139% Level 28: 100% 119% 124% 129% 134% 139% Level 29: 100% 119% 124% 129% 134% 139% Level 30: 100% 120% 125% 130% 135% 140% Adv. Combos: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Level 1: 100% 121% 126% 131% 136% 141% 145% Level 2: 100% 122% 127% 132% 137% 142% 146% Level 3: 100% 123% 128% 133% 138% 143% 147% Level 4: 100% 124% 129% 134% 139% 144% 148% Level 5: 100% 125% 130% 135% 140% 145% 149% Level 6: 100% 126% 131% 136% 141% 146% 150% Level 7: 100% 127% 132% 137% 142% 147% 151% 155% Level 8: 100% 128% 133% 138% 143% 148% 152% 156% Level 9: 100% 129% 134% 139% 144% 149% 153% 157% Level 10: 100% 130% 135% 140% 145% 150% 154% 158% Level 11: 100% 131% 136% 141% 146% 151% 155% 159% Level 12: 100% 132% 137% 142% 147% 152% 156% 160% Level 13: 100% 133% 138% 143

My Characters: Talekah - 109 Scania Crusader

ApplePaladin 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wow.... why do they hate paladins so much? What did we ever do to them?

My Characters: PagePikachu - 130 Aquila Paladin

OhSoGraceful 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I Know right, i'd hate to have haters like the ones you have taleko

My Characters: SaderOfRoses - 143 Broa Hero

XOwnageMageX + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Epic fail (at the person bashing pallies) You made my day

My Characters: ForgottenEMI - 44 Bera Evan 4th Growth

JunSama 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't understand why anyone thinks any class stinks. All classes are fun, it's all subjective. (Though, I will admit your liking of classes will be more narrow if you're a power-hungry tightwad)

My Characters: JunKiri - 147 Bera Shadower

gtbROX + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Woww...If this person is in broa, pm me the ign and I'll show him/her what pallys can do... And basil has been known to be wrong very often...Sorry but Mr. Basil doesn't know EVERY SINGLE THING about maplestory. Even nexon has trouble understanding its own game....

My Characters: gtbhastacos - 140 Broa Paladin

Emenia 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Paladins are almost on par with heros now so this is just utter bs... wow ='_'= No class stinks, they're all good at doing their own different things. What an outrageously ignorant person.

My Characters: Kappah - 113 Windia White Knight

amazingant25 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I love Pally's. One of my friends is a pally and out-damages me any day. (Well he is like 9 levels ahead of me) Still, he killed BF a lot faster than me at my level. I don't see why people hate on Pally's.

My Characters: Hero2HSword - 136 Khaini Hero

Bello + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Yes 2. Hell No 1v1 n & e : Pallies 1v2-3 n & e : Heroes 1v4+ n & e : Pallies on zak : Heroes on BF :Pallies on black crow : Pallies on scar : Pallies targa : Pallies targa and scar r lightning and ice weak i believe i dk wich is which though on anego : pallies on HT : Heroes on PAP : Heroes but Pallies are wanting more there becuz of 100% KB(blast KBs PAP Alot) getting INTO Parties more : umm heroes even with the new threaten making money : Pallies(O4 has highest drop rate of PoTs and Pallies train the fastest at O4 thus more chance of Pots dropping and more mula =O 1 Pot = 4-7M trains faster(after lvl 15x) : Pallies(HH Training) Pallies > Heroes OVERALL 3. idk.. but im guessing no cuz ur a sader O-o and most(i said MOST) saders/heroes dont like/dont care about wks/pallies.. and honestly if you were a pally lover wouldnt ur avatar be a Page -> WK -> Pally?

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esvil4 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Taleko you moron, everyone knows hiddenstreet is NEVER WRONG!111## Cause the stonetooth sword drops from black crow right? RIGHT? :P

My Characters: H0lyCrus4der - 130 Khaini Hero

djp2313 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] esvil4 : Taleko you moron, everyone knows hiddenstreet is NEVER WRONG!111## [/quote] lol this though i guess some of the blame is on nexon for making idiotic skill tables to begin wiith

My Characters: darknightr - 184 Bera Dark Knight

IamL37 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i still wanna know how you have a Khanjar equipped when your a Crusader.

My Characters: iTripNFall37 - 137 Windia Dark Knight

coalman4444 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@bello There is more Heroes then Pallies so all the Pallies spots are mostly filled in by the Hero Since most runners pick only the people they know the chances for paladin to boss is less likely chance

My Characters: LastRespect - 103 Windia White Knight

Abolition2 07/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't think mr. bello has most of his pally vs. hero scenarios correct.

My Characters: cartzonz - 123 Bera Hero

AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Bello : 1. Yes 2. Hell No 1v1 n & e : Pallies 1v2-3 n & e : Heroes 1v4+ n & e : Pallies on zak : Heroes on BF :Pallies on black crow : Pallies on scar : Pallies targa : Pallies targa and scar r lightning and ice weak i believe i dk wich is which though on anego : pallies on HT : Heroes on PAP : Heroes but Pallies are wanting more there becuz of 100% KB(blast KBs PAP Alot) getting INTO Parties more : umm heroes even with the new threaten making money : Pallies(O4 has highest drop rate of PoTs and Pallies train the fastest at O4 thus more chance of Pots dropping and more mula =O 1 Pot = 4-7M trains faster(after lvl 15x) : Pallies(HH Training) Pallies > Heroes OVERALL 3. idk.. but im guessing no cuz ur a sader O-o and most(i said MOST) saders/heroes dont like/dont care about wks/pallies.. and honestly if you were a pally lover wouldnt ur avatar be a Page -> WK -> Pally? [/quote] You have a few errors. 1v1-1v3 Neutral targets: Hero. Thankfully the members of this forum where wrong about how charges stack (thankfully, because their calculations would have been broken in 3rd and 4th job). Scarlion is weak to fire and targa is weak against ice. Also, Paladins do not have an advantage on anything Ice/Poison weak. No poison charge exists and ice charge is more of a utility and is not as strong. And yes nexon is stupid. Combo still states it multiplies your damage by 220%, but in reality it is only a maximum of 140%.

My Characters: AdroxNight - 123 Bellocan Hero