Regular Luk Clerics?

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thread starter megaf6 Jul 08 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

After taking a year long break, I'm thinking about joining Maplestory again. I won't be playing nearly as much though. Wanna start up my cleric again, cause he's pretty close to third job. But, is it even worth pursuing a regular luk cleric? What about funding? I remember having 400 million mesos, with a few nice ranger equips. Should i even fund him, or dump it all into leeching? I'm a huge fan of leeching :P

My Characters: iCanHasBow - 96 Windia Ranger

Avens 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

cleric lvls faster alone than leech. just lvl 60-80 = harder than normal

My Characters: Xxtsy - 150 Galicia Bishop

megaf6 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm level 64, and incredibly tired of LMPQ. Most likely I'll leech to 70, probably higher. Maybe until I max HS.

My Characters: iCanHasBow - 96 Windia Ranger

ButteredToast 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lukles r better. reg luk arent worth training.

My Characters: Scorpionus - 50 Windia Hunter

Avens 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lukless = cheaper and more matk. The only occasion where luk overcomes lukless is when reverse items come into play. However, each reverse item takes a LOT of funds to make. With those funds, you can EASILY scroll something better for a lukless.

My Characters: Xxtsy - 150 Galicia Bishop

megaf6 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't really feel like making him again >.< I had a lukless ice lightning before, but I deleted him because I was bored of it. I don't think I have enough funding for a decent lukless mage.

My Characters: iCanHasBow - 96 Windia Ranger

Xylit + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ButteredToast : lukles r better. reg luk arent worth training. [/quote] After revamp it's more like this: Lukless are weakest in terms of damage and can barely hit anything. Reg luk are stronger and got way more accuracy. And not worth training? I thought maple was about fun and not about damage.

My Characters: AzureStar - 176 KradiaEMS Bishop

Avens 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Xylit : After revamp it's more like this: Lukless are weakest in terms of damage and can barely hit anything. Reg luk are stronger and got way more accuracy. And not worth training? I thought maple was about fun and not about damage. [/quote] 1) revamp won't be coming to GMS anytime soon. Time is undecided atm. 2) the new magic accuracy formula removes int, but level is still important. Should you be a lot higher lvl than the monster you are attacker, you will most likely hit regardless of luk. 3) on a side note, I've heard of lukless mages in KMST having tons of magic accuracy without adding luk to base.

My Characters: Xxtsy - 150 Galicia Bishop

megaf6 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Damage = fun to me :D Its either revamping my cleric, or starting a dragon knight. I've played one before on a not so good server(trust me, I regret even going there), and they are super duper fun. I had one before, only got to 45. That was about, ehh, 4 years ago? What do you guys think? Not sure if I'm going to start a new thread yet.

My Characters: iCanHasBow - 96 Windia Ranger

Xylit + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Avens : 1) revamp won't be coming to GMS anytime soon. Time is undecided atm. [/quote] So? You rather pay for a ton of lukless gear now and sell it when revamp comes = it's worthless and you'll need a ton of leveling before the patch to be able to hit anything, or invest in massive amounts of luk gear. [quote] Avens : 2) the new magic accuracy formula removes int, but level is still important. Should you be a lot higher lvl than the monster you are attacker, you will most likely hit regardless of luk. [/quote] HAHAHAHAHA. How about getting your facts straight? Level matters 100% for all classes but mages, for mages luk is VERY important to hit 100%. I play KMST and KMS, lol. My battlemage still misses on monsters just below level, he's reg luk. [quote] Avens : 3) on a side note, I've heard of lukless mages in KMST having tons of magic accuracy without adding luk to base. [/quote] Ye by spending a ton of nx cash on %-stat gear and potential scrolling. Prolly around 100~200k nx. And when making %-stat gear or potential scrolling your items there's a good rate of booming your gear, and when you potential scroll your gear needs to be 0 slot, aka finish-scrolled when you do it. You dare risking your gear? I wouldnt wanna risk booming my 15/25 earrings for example. Also to add to that: Magic attack will work as attack for mages so using Reverse(for bishop) or elemental staves(for AMs, the lvl 16X ones) will give the best damage output.

My Characters: AzureStar - 176 KradiaEMS Bishop

Avens 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Xylit : So? You rather pay for a ton of lukless gear now and sell it when revamp comes = it's worthless and you'll need a ton of leveling before the patch to be able to hit anything, or invest in massive amounts of luk gear. [/quote] Well its either that or I play a weaker char for a long time to come. Who knows how long it'll take for revamp to come? Maybe I'll even quit by then. [quote] Xylit : HAHAHAHAHA. How about getting your facts straight? Level matters 100% for all classes but mages, for mages luk is VERY important to hit 100%. I play KMST and KMS, lol. My battlemage still misses on monsters just below level, he's reg luk. [/quote] Lvl definitely matters for mages. Try attacking galloperas at lvl 50. Lvl to 100, and with the same stats and equips, you'd hit instead of miss. [quote] Xylit : Ye by spending a ton of nx cash on %-stat gear and potential scrolling. Prolly around 100~200k nx. And when making %-stat gear or potential scrolling your items there's a good rate of booming your gear, and when you potential scroll your gear needs to be 0 slot, aka finish-scrolled when you do it. You dare risking your gear? I wouldnt wanna risk booming my 15/25 earrings for example. [/quote] 200k nx = not nearly the amount required to scroll yourself good reverse equips. Not to mention possible PoT inflation when revamp date is set. [quote] Xylit : Also to add to that: Magic attack will work as attack for mages so using Reverse(for bishop) or elemental staves(for AMs, the lvl 16X ones) will give the best damage output. [/quote] This is the only thing I have nothing to argue with. I don't know the formulas for KMST revamp, so I have no idea how it'll turn out.

My Characters: Xxtsy - 150 Galicia Bishop

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[quote] Avens : Well its either that or I play a weaker char for a long time to come. Who knows how long it'll take for revamp to come? Maybe I'll even quit by then. [/quote] >Implying the difference between lukless and luk bishop is big enough to make it slower to play. once 2HKO with gene is achieved you got the grindspeed you need. [quote] Avens : 200k nx = not nearly the amount required to scroll yourself good reverse equips. Not to mention possible PoT inflation when revamp date is set. [/quote] Clean average reverse staff is about the same as a 17 int 115 m.att maple wisdom staff. You get my point now? You can make the reverse staff on your own, you could even use a dragon staff or a dimon wand, it'd be stronger. Makering a godly dimon wand will beat a godly wisdom staff by miles. And wanna know something really beautiful? There's a 10% chance the staff will improve angel ray. Maxed angel ray + the extra SP from reverse staff = 31 angel ray post-revamp. And i decided to remove the part of magic accuracy, cause you didnt comprehend what i wrote. I wrote that luk matters the most, int got no effect. And i never said level didnt matter.

My Characters: AzureStar - 176 KradiaEMS Bishop

megaf6 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What do you 2 mainly do? Train by yourself? Boss? Train with others?

My Characters: iCanHasBow - 96 Windia Ranger

MastaSella 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No time to read everything here, so I'm just gonna leave this here for you to look at for training places.

My Characters: Mandaragit - 140 Windia Buccaneer

megaf6 07/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No newties? o_o

My Characters: iCanHasBow - 96 Windia Ranger