Dexless Dual Blader?

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thread starter Dragonwings5 Jul 04 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What would be the best dualblder, Dexless, normal dex, or reg dex. Also who is making a dexless DB? Edit: I mean Low dex instead of normal dex, My bad

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TrulySorry 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dexless would be the BEST out of them all. Not the dexless where they use luk equips, the one where they have a base dex of 25 and have equips that reach 160 dex. Idk how people do it, you'd have to sacrifice attack equips unless you have like a 40 dex zhelm and a 50 dex sauna, then some 20 dex earrings and etc.

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johny2toes 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] TrulySorry : Dexless would be the BEST out of them all. Not the dexless where they use luk equips, the one where they have a base dex of 25 and have equips that reach 160 dex. Idk how people do it, you'd have to sacrifice attack equips unless you have like a 40 dex zhelm and a 50 dex sauna, then some 20 dex earrings and etc. [/quote] a.k.a Low-Dex Once you use any means to add onto dex to wear an equip you're automatically considered low-dex. Dexless = No dex. Once you either add AP to dex or use dex equips to boost up dex to wear an item you're low-dex. above I would start off with dex shoes since those are the cheapest dex item you can find.

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AznRyaku 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] johny2toes : There's no such thing as a dexless reverse user, if you use dex equips to have the dex needed to wear a reverse you're low dex. A dexless user uses luk equips while keeping their dex at 25 (Which let's clarify that there's no such thing as a dexless thief 'cause of this unless you AP reset the dex you already have.) That's hard to say, really depends what you find. You should buy your equips ahead of time and try to figure out how much dex you'll have by lv 120 from equips. [/quote] Hi, thats wrong. 25 base dex is dexless. This and my DB will both have 25 base dex, therefor dexless. Dont get technical. Dexless users use dex equips, high dex use luck equips. Equips im using for my DB include; -37 dex u/h scar -HTP/MoN (Deciding) -20 dex 6 luck lv 90 shoes -28 dex 4 luck bottoms u/h lv 80 (Possibly 30-32 dex w/ vegas) - 5 dex 28 luck u/h lv 90 top -MW 20/30 (+2/3) -Att cape -Att belt -16 dex hamd earrings -3 str rings 1 advent ring -4 aura rings -2 dex medal (Possibly 3) I think I know what being dexless is. Low dex is adding a low amount of dex.

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johny2toes 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AznRyaku : Hi, thats wrong. 25 base dex is dexless. This and my DB will both have 25 base dex, therefor dexless. Dont get technical. Dexless users use dex equips, high dex use luck equips. Equips im using for my DB include; -37 dex u/h scar -HTP/MoN (Deciding) -20 dex 6 luck lv 90 shoes -28 dex 4 luck bottoms u/h lv 80 (Possibly 30-32 dex w/ vegas) - 5 dex 28 luck u/h lv 90 top -MW 20/30 (+2/3) -Att cape -Att belt -16 dex hamd earrings -3 str rings 1 advent ring -4 aura rings -2 dex medal (Possibly 3) I think I know what being dexless is. Low dex is adding a low amount of dex. [/quote] And where did you miss the meaning of what adding dex means? Using dex equips is still adding dex. Dexless = NO DEX... It doesn't matter if it's from equips you're still adding dex. 25 base with 135 dex from equips is low dex.

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TrulySorry + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] johny2toes : And where did you miss the meaning of what adding dex means? Using dex equips is still adding dex. Dexless = NO DEX... It doesn't matter if it's from equips you're still adding dex. 25 base with 135 dex from equips is low dex. [/quote] No it isn't. Dexless is as long as you have a base dex of 25. There's two types of dexless. Ryaku That's only around 130 dex. You're missing 5 :D Nice dex equips though, but won't you need dex to wear those level 90 equips, which I don't think you have enough for. Yeah I looked over it. Your dex equips start at level 80, and you need 120 dex, you don't have enough to wear it. You have 90 dex in total without the dex equips at level 80~90.

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MagykFist 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] johny2toes : Dexless is stronger till lv 7x~8x IF there are dexless blades... without dexless blades it's not possible to even make a dexless DB. Low-Dex are the strongest after 7x~8x since the difference in atk power greatly benefits them over a dexless. Reg-dex out damages a dexless by around 100+ since again the difference in atk power is great enough to make them stronger. Low-Dex is the best type of DB. [/quote] But... there are Maple Blades that don't require dex. But your going to have to wait 1 more year for them.

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anisbro007 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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FFXTidus63 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] anisbro007 : You have just been posting wrong just everywhere haven't you? [/quote] he made the stickied guide for dualblades lmao

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anisbro007 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] FFXTidus63 : he made the stickied guide for dualblades lmao [/quote] Well if he is saying adding Dex Equips but having 25 Base Dex is Low Dex or even Reg Dex, he's wrong. 25 Base Dex IS Dexless. 26-120 Base Dex IS Low-Dex(Just cause most people Cap here.). 120+ Base Dex IS Reg-Dex.

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johny2toes 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] anisbro007 : Well if he is saying adding Dex Equips but having 25 Base Dex is Low Dex or even Reg Dex, he's wrong. 25 Base Dex IS Dexless. 26-120 Base Dex IS Low-Dex(Just cause most people Cap here.). 120+ Base Dex IS Reg-Dex. [/quote] And you still miss the point. Dexless = No dex. If you use equips to add dex you aren't dexless anymore. A true dexless user doesn't use equips to add onto dex, they use luk equips while using non-dex required weapons. Low-Dex = Either adding dex or using DEX EQUIPS to add to their total dex to wear DEX REQUIRED items. You can't be a dexless reverse user since you need to add into dex one way or another. Is adding 40 ap into dex and wearing a 40 luk overall any different from having 40 AP into luk and using a 40 dex overall? No there isn't. Using dex equips is still low-dex.

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TrulySorry + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] anisbro007 : Well if he is saying adding Dex Equips but having 25 Base Dex is Low Dex or even Reg Dex, he's wrong. 25 Base Dex IS Dexless. 26-120 Base Dex IS Low-Dex(Just cause most people Cap here.). 120+ Base Dex IS Reg-Dex. [/quote] Correct, you got it right. above No. As long as you have 25 base dex, YOU ARE DEXLESS. Added dex does not count towards anything that would change you from dexless to low-dex. Look at it this way, does MW affect the added dex from equips? No. Also, yeah...that's why HeroTex is the first dexless Lampion user. Okay there...

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aiaku 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm going 25base low-dex

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TrulySorry 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] aiaku : I'm going 25base low-dex [/quote] Argh..that's dexless. Looking for proof on this topic...

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TheFurySin 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Going DEXless will only result in a loss of over +40 ATT (Blade).

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aiaku 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] TrulySorry : Argh..that's dexless. Looking for proof on this topic... [/quote] I know it's Dexless, but if I said it was, that johnny2toes would cry again...

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