Why choose a Dit over a DB?

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thread starter KingShade Jul 04 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Although this might seem like flame/troll bait I'm just honestly interested in the answers. DB's are practically better than Dits(as in their job tree) in every way(better mobbers,better bossers lol RGTS,better skills/flashier skills, get an ultimate,party crit, more iframes). Even post-big bang, DB's still come out on top. So aside personal reasons(cant afford to buy mastery books,hate dbs for w.e reason/have a high leveled dit already, cant afford to get godly dags and blades, etc etc) Why would you ever choose a Dit over a Db?

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rangedanger9 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MageKnight : Shadowers hold this ultimate sense of pride, for being amongst the weak of the original classes & still making it out top. Plus, they still look cooler than Dual Bladers, to me if anything. Also, being on the bandwagon is lame. Qft, Torin. [/quote] I support this message whole-heartedly. Shadowers shall reign supreme!

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KingShade + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SodaCan121 : i would choose a dit, because shadower sounds a lot better than dual blade :D EDIT: sorry i didnt read very carefully. uhh, i guess cause they have meso explosion? [/quote] I'll give you that, ME is one smexy skill but not enough to make you choose a dit over a db. [quote] Kaojiru : I can use my assaulter as a ''teleport'' skill as long as there's monsters. Doubt flying assaulter can do the same. Also, I'm a meso-element user :D [/quote] while Assaulter does tele you, FA literally flings you across the map both attacking more mobs/doing more dmg + also has iframes also Fj for both classes neways. soo.. DB still wins [quote] Mkay20 : Well in KMST dual bladders was for a limited time only, so people who missed it had to make shadowers. I don't know really o_o; [/quote] But that was in KMST/KMS. In GMS they're perma. Which is why i started thinking about this thread O.o [quote] FanGxCrest : I just think Shadowers are better. [/quote] Personal. [quote] MageKnight : Shadowers hold this ultimate sense of pride, for being amongst the weak of the original classes & still making it out top. Plus, they still look cooler than Dual Bladers, to me if anything. Also, being on the bandwagon is lame. Qft, Torin. [/quote] Personal to the extreme, also making a db cause they're better than dits doesn't make you a bandwagoner and even if it did who cares? [quote] MyLegacy : I personally think shadowers are more effective when coming to bossing because of how versatile shadowers really are. Sure dual bladers have an advantage when it comes to damage but when it comes to survivability er... lets just say they're not as well off. To add on those flashy skills aren't really going to be able to do much when it comes to bossing. To sum it all, dual bladers are more like a training-partner-type class instead of bossing in my opinion. [/quote] While not being able to tank a hit is certainly a downside, DBs are very much highly capable bossers. Pletora of buffs/ a debuff + iframes make you not only a great solo bosser, your wanted more in parties. Also CoH Spam alone makes Db's Godleh at bossing. Have you seen some of the DB bossing vids? They're amazing [quote] rangedanger9 : I support this message whole-heartedly. Shadowers shall reign supreme! [/quote] Personal Again. [quote] generaltsoji : Unless DB's have BoT, Assaulter, SB, BS, Assassinate, etc. they are still a different job and some people will continue to make bandits [/quote] While they dont have the same skills they essentially have better versions of all dit skills, just with higher mobbing and higher dmg + iframes. FA > Assualter, SR/MB > Bot/ NA, FB > SB, BldS > BS etc. Plus better buffs [quote] Scheifen : post-big bang, we don't know if Shads or DB's are better, because we don't know the hidden formula for blade's w.attk... however it does seem like CoH will still make DB top solo dpm and also, Db's are not better in every way even now, since they have low hp and no way to tank a hit (no

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Kaojiru 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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KingShade 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kaojiru : Flying assaulter can't make you skip platforms. As in, I can go to the upper platforms using assaulter So I still win in the teleport section :D FA is only a type of warrior rush skill. [/quote] But can you use Assaulter to fly downwards off a map? AHA! also Fj > both anyways f3

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ThiefofLords 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Survivability? DBs have no meso guard, which basically cuts their hp in half.

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ComboSlasher 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@ above *Cough* Dummy effect *cough*

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OFGeneral 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i can and only play thief class so it dos't mater to me but i found both bandits and db rly good, but still db get allot more skills at rly early lvs and bandits get theyr coolest ones at 3rd and 4th job allot to work on :P

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chrisun1000 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dual blades will get horribly nerfed in the revamp, and shadowers obtain flash jump and shadow partner, so in the end shads will be better x-x

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xdarkshynobi 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Love it. Ts probably wont even make it to 120 db or shadower=]

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ComboSlasher 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, that won't happen in 1 year or two

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maple199 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ComboSlasher : @ above *Cough* Dummy effect *cough* [/quote] But after the Big Bang, Shadowers will essentially have the upper hand in that category. Because they get Shadow Partner and Meso Guard.

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ComboSlasher 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

But that won't happen in 1 year or two

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xdarkshynobi 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

My point ts is u cant compare one thing w/ another if u havnt had both

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cakeonastick 07/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kaojiru : I can use my assaulter as a ''teleport'' skill as long as there's monsters. Doubt flying assaulter can do the same. Also, I'm a meso-element user :D [/quote] DB can use FA anywhere, even without monsters. :|

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[quote] KingShade : I'll give you that, ME is one smexy skill but not enough to make you choose a dit over a db. while Assaulter does tele you, FA literally flings you across the map both attacking more mobs/doing more dmg + also has iframes also Fj for both classes neways. soo.. DB still wins But that was in KMST/KMS. In GMS they're perma. Which is why i started thinking about this thread O.o Personal. Personal to the extreme , also making a db cause they're better than dits doesn't make you a bandwagoner and even if it did who cares? While not being able to tank a hit is certainly a downside, DBs are very much highly capable bossers. Pletora of buffs/ a debuff + iframes make you not only a great solo bosser, your wanted more in parties. Also CoH Spam alone makes Db's Godleh at bossing. Have you seen some of the DB bossing vids? They're amazing Personal Again. While they dont have the same skills they essentially have better versions of all dit skills, just with higher mobbing and higher dmg + iframes. FA > Assualter, SR/MB > Bot/ NA, FB > SB, BldS > BS etc. Plus better buffs While we don't know the Blades % formulas yet, basing it off just the % dmg of skills + number of hits + Training Speed(which honestly isn't gonna change)+ Shadoweers upgrades. Db's still seem to come out on top and while they dont have meso guard post-big bang hp isnt really much of a problem + they still have loads of iframes and CoH still demolishes everything. [/quote] You have your own personal bias over DBs so can you really say personal to other people?

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