Can i get the Explorer's Cruel Ring with an aran?
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thread starter theflyingpig Jun 25 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
the rings that r given away r 4 getting to lvl 50. so if get my aran to lvl 50 will i get the ring? or do i needa make an explorer to get it?
My Characters: FrozenMoonR5 - 80 Mardia Aran in Misery
ratgas 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
1. No you need an explorer 2. If you're getting the ring for your lvl 80 Aran, I recommend you go with the critical ring over the cruel ring.
My Characters: LovesRemain - 52 Windia Assassin
EmperorP 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
It's called an Adventurer/explorer ring for a reason.
My Characters: ClassicAran - 110 Yellonde Aran in Misery
OneWithKool 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Get a crit ring
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Akanechan167 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] EmperorP : It's called an Adventurer/explorer ring for a reason. [/quote] This. Lol, at least read the Event Notices...
My Characters: TransIated - 50 Bera Crossbow Man
Khar 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
ikr reading equals win i rofl when ppl dont read and then come on basil and say OMg i lvled to 5x on mi aran,evan,or ck were my ring at >:O and yes i kno the ts didnt do that but a lot of other people have and it hilarious @ts like everyone else said you need an adventurer for an advanturer ring it only makes sense that they would be required b/c of the name
My Characters: ComboKhar - 75 Windia Aran in Misery
Maninae 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Get a Critical Ring. It wins both solo and with SE. And you need an explorer.
My Characters: DragoIceri - 83 Galicia Aran in Misery
Eaglehype 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
It said in that one thread that cruel ring is much better than crit ring solo. Just get cruel ring instead. that 20% extra dmg is absolutely lovely. Im hitting 55k average with fenrir now instead of just 47k
My Characters: Balloonchan - 125 Bera Aran in Hope
Malon89 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Why do you think they call it an Explorer's Cruel Ring?
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Khar 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
yah everyone kno that the critring outdamages the creul b/c of the extra amout of crits but seriously i doubt you would notice the difference
My Characters: ComboKhar - 75 Windia Aran in Misery
generaltsoji + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Eaglehype : It said in that one thread that cruel ring is much better than crit ring solo. Just get cruel ring instead. that 20% extra dmg is absolutely lovely. Im hitting 55k average with fenrir now instead of just 47k [/quote] That thread calculated aran's DPM incorrectly Nvm about the other part
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InfiniteFusion 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Eaglehype : It said in that one thread that cruel ring is much better than crit ring solo. Just get cruel ring instead. that 20% extra dmg is absolutely lovely. Im hitting 55k average with fenrir now instead of just 47k [/quote] That thread calculated Aran's crit as having 70% chance of 100% damage rather than 70% chance of 200% damage. This makes a huge difference when deciding which ring to pick.
My Characters: FissionBlast - 70 Broa Aran in Memory
Maninae + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Eaglehype : It said in that one thread that cruel ring is much better than crit ring solo. Just get cruel ring instead. that 20% extra dmg is absolutely lovely. Im hitting 55k average with fenrir now instead of just 47k [/quote] The "everything you need to know about adventurer Rings" thread is wrong for Arans. It calculated Arans critical at 100%, not 200%. With 200% crit damage, Critical is better. Edit: ninja'd
My Characters: DragoIceri - 83 Galicia Aran in Misery
SensaiRyuClan 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
i tried the math and also looked at the "everything you need to know" thread which looks promising. if you find it wrong, don't just say it. show me the 'corrected' formula so i can work it out too. last time i looked at the everything thread there were some numbers i couldnt figure out where they came from. in a week ill have some time to sit down and figure it all out to my satisfaction. itll take me that long just to get my second ring. XD i tried the math 2 ways. one way had the crit ring as better. the other way had the cruel ring better. stacking crit %dmg made one ring better than the other. and in think the ring's crit dmg stacks on an aran's crit dmg. this makes a difference. if the thread did calc DPM wrong, General, what's the corrected formula? id really like to know. in a week i'll put the forumla into excel and work it out for myself.
My Characters: SensaiRuAran - 146 Windia Aran in Hope
Maninae 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Its the same as the one "everything you need to know" did, except change 100 to 200. chance of no crit*(overswing + FB without crit)+chance of a crit*(overswing +FB with ALL crits.) Base: 0.3*(100+170*2+240*2+700)+0.7*[(100+200)+(170+200)*2+(240+200)*2+(700+200)] = 2460%. CritRing: 0.2*(100+170*2+240*2+700)+0.8*[(100+210)+(170+210)*2+(240+210)*2+(700+210)] = 2628%. CruelRing: 0.25*(100+170*2+240*2+700)+0.75*[(100+220)+(170+220)*2+(240+220)*2+(700+220)] = 2610%. Critical and Cruel Ring are close enough, and Cruel Ring also has a 1 wep att to make up for it. With SE however, Critical Ring is definitely better.
My Characters: DragoIceri - 83 Galicia Aran in Misery
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