Arch Mages / Bishops Ultimates 30 second cool down.

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thread starter Kenbox035 Jun 24 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What the heck is up with nexon? -_- Taking away the only thing that AM's have, how are they supposed to train now? They can't expect us to train with the crappy chain lightning we have. If they are giving a 30 second cool down we should at least have CL be able to be on par with an attackers 1v1 damage. AM's can't boss, they can't 1v1 at all, they can't be in training parties now we can't do the ONLY thing we could do, solo train and spam blizzard. I think even bishops should get a better AR but at least they can still be in training parties and boss and do other bishop stuff. I know AM's/Bishops have been hated sort of since they can train so easily and alot faster than any other class, everyone just says oh you just sit there and spam blizzard how easy for you. Well what else were we supposed to do, train with CL? We kind of didn't have an option so spamming blizzard was sort of forced upon us. I know ifrit is there as well but that still isn't enough at all. As if AM's weren't useless enough already, can't train/sell leech anymore . I'm mainly talking about I/L since that's what regards me but this goes for F/P's and Bishops kind of as well. Nexon's own stupidity probably lead to what's being done to arch mages/bishops, they couldn't find any other way to patch/nerf leech so they screwed over mages to do so. I better get to leeching my hermit so that could be my new main after this nerf is done with.

My Characters: Kenbox035 - 126 Windia I/L Arch Mage

thecitadel 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

We've already dealt with this issue. For I/Ls, CL hits 10 friggen' monsters and I believe you get Eliquines. Big bang was also remade: it now hits 6 monsters, 5 times each. I'm already completely over the whole 30 second c/d due to BB.

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Kenbox035 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I know CL hit's 10 monsters but it doesn't change the fact that it's weak. Also we get ifrit o_O F/P get's eliquines, I don't know why but it's always been that way. As for big bang hitting 6 monsters 5 times, that' something I didn't know though and it sounds like good compensation I guess but none the less there should still be more done for the mage class. Arch mages anyways, before all the re-balance's started we were useless / screwed and after we still are and with that coming up just contributes more so. The new BB is great and all but that gives no individuality to any of the mage classes, bishops and I/L's and F/P's all using big bang to train? Sounds weirdd :p We should get better CL, Paralyze and AR as well. It may be asking for too much but with classes like DB's soon to be running around, it's not alot to ask for at all.

My Characters: Kenbox035 - 126 Windia I/L Arch Mage

kafei 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Why? Why people only read the part where it says "ultimates will have a 30s cooldown"? It's a whole new game mechanic. A new formula for magical attacks. A HUGE boost in mage's other skills. Give this thread a peek. Can a bishop deal this kind of damage with lvl 1 BB, at level 124 nowdays? No. Will CL deal a huge load of damage in 10 monsters? Yes, it will. Will Ice Strike get a huge boost? Yes. Will BB be a high damaging non elemental mob skill? Yes. Will mage's damage be very close to other classes'? Yep. That's how mages are going to train? Pretty much yes.

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xGrandpaChug 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kenbox035 : I know CL hit's 10 monsters but it doesn't change the fact that it's weak. Also we get ifrit o_O F/P get's eliquines, I don't know why but it's always been that way. As for big bang hitting 6 monsters 5 times, that' something I didn't know though and it sounds like good compensation I guess but none the less there should still be more done for the mage class. Arch mages anyways, before all the re-balance's started we were useless / screwed and after we still are and with that coming up just contributes more so. The new BB is great and all but that gives no individuality to any of the mage classes, bishops and I/L's and F/P's all using big bang to train? Sounds weirdd :p We should get better CL, Paralyze and AR as well. It may be asking for too much but with classes like DB's soon to be running around, it's not alot to ask for at all. [/quote] Ice Demon + Ifrit combo

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iluvsarah 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Honestly... these "ultimates having a cooldown" threads remind me of my mom, back when I was still in high school. When I came home with my report card, she would always demand it. Take the end of fall semester report card for example. "A on AP Physics = expected." "A on Calculus = you better have." "A on AP English = your brother had an A+. I expected more from you." "A+ on AP U.S History = what else is new?" "A on P.E = if you get anything lower, say good bye to chocolate." "B- on AP Spanish = WHAT? What is this, huh? You're grounded! I've never been so ashamed in my life!" Seriously, 4th job magicians, try to see the brighter aspects of this revamp. Yes your go-to training skill is getting nerfed to the butt. However, ALL your other skills are getting buffed to insane levels. I mean, your teleport even does damage now. How unfair is that? Chief bandits would be snarling at you for robbing their skill and they can't do squat about it. They'd curse at Wizet for taking their originality but nothing would come from it. You guys can even boss now (arch mages) since your abilities will be spiced up. A lot of your kind wanted bossing capabilities while keeping your ultimate. Sorry to say this but that just doesn't happen. If you can demand that, then every paladin should be able to ask for a zero cooldown on heaven's hammer. Paladins have been the under dogs for a while now, white knights even. We don't get flashy ultimates. Our only ultimate doesn't even kill. How frustrating is that? Take what you've got and cherish it. If not, make another class.

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James9481 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ffs dude shut up! You're contradicting youself with ever sentence. They gave huge buffs to paralyze, chain lightning, big bang etc... God. It's like you read 'cooldown on ultimates' and didn't bother to look ONE LINE below that reads 'CL now hits 10 monsters' T_T.

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Crizit 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I saw on that KMST thread we have in basil, CL hits 10 monsters and magic increases to 530? Thats what I saw. Do you know what that means? xd It about 250% more dmg I think? lol I do right now 40K CL, So with new boost i'll do over 100k.

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kafei 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Crizit : I saw on that KMST thread we have in basil, CL hits 10 monsters and magic increases to 530? Thats what I saw. Do you know what that means? xd It about 250% more dmg I think? lol I do right now 40K CL, So with new boost i'll do over 100k. [/quote] Actualy, it's 530 % . From your magic range. The same way it works for every other class. After AMP and Elemental Wand of Staff, it might do even more than 100k.

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Edge4Life 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Your really crying over something that might happen on a minimum of 6 month? MS is A privallage not a right, they can do what they want because it's a 'free' game that can some how afford to make commercials and advertise everywhere .

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aznstyles 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

im kinda sick of these threads ITS IN F**KING KMST DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? IT MEANS ITS IN TESTING AND MAGIC FORMULA HAS CHANGED, HAVE YOU SEEN THE VIDS PEOPLE FROM KMST AND PUTTING OUT WITH MAGES BOSSING JESUS F**KING CHRIST (i do not mean to offend people hat believe in jesus)

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LitheMovement 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

suck it up, foo'

Gracefulkill 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

nexon is basically trying to kill everything related to leech as it all began with the leech ratio being changed all i can say is get your characters to 120 and BRACE YOURSELF

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Lantagonist 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

learn to live with a cooldown on your ultimate or learn to not use your ultimate evans don't get theirs till 160 and even then it has a 30 second cooldown

My Characters: Ichlaren - 82 Broa Evan 7th Growth

eswarrr 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gracefulkill : nexon is basically trying to kill everything related to leech as it all began with the leech ratio being changed all i can say is get your characters to 120 and BRACE YOURSELF [/quote] So, what they are going to do about other prominent leechers(Zak arms, BF, Anego etc.,). The main reason behind this cooldown is to balance the class.

My Characters: Alaczar - 105 Bera Crusader