Who has a higher DPM?

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thread starter Successor Jun 24 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Heroes or Night Lords? If they have equal fundings, and they're both dexless? Drks or Night Lords? If they have equal fundings, and they're both dexless?

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4thJobSeries1 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If they're both Dexless than the Hero. If the NL is LowDex then probably the NL but not by much.

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hyperfire7 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 4thJobSeries1 : If they're both Dexless than the Hero. If the NL is LowDex then probably the NL but not by much. [/quote] You forgot the very well-funded dexless sins are able to equip a Craven/Dragon Sleeve. Likewise, it all depends on funding. If the NL is stuck with a 50Att Skanda, then Obviously a Hero, unless the Sin had a 27 ATT BWG or 15 PAC or something.

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VulcanWalker 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The hero would win in single hits, since they hit higher in 1 shot than night lords. If the NL has SE on, then its NL by far, no competition.

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NlessCarnage 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

There's a thread out there with all the calculations in the area of dpm.

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jwhitee 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Heros win hands on solo NL's win hands on w/ SE

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Successor 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] NlessCarnage : There's a thread out there with all the calculations in the area of dpm. [/quote] I request a link.

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FireTuhRuck 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i want link as well.

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Incorrect 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 4thJobSeries1 : If they're both Dexless than the Hero. If the NL is LowDex then probably the NL but not by much. [/quote] Well-funded dexless NLs dont have to be those that wear Luk equips. My first NL had a base dex of 25 and i used a craven. I was therefore Dexless. My NL actually outdamages my hero despite the funding i put on my hero, but then again, the majority of it was on one weapon. [quote] VulcanWalker : The hero would win in single hits, since they hit higher in 1 shot than night lords. If the NL has SE on, then its NL by far, no competition. [/quote] We're talking about DPM here. [quote] jwhitee : Heros win hands on solo NL's win hands on w/ SE [/quote] What the hell is "hands on". And heros dont win "hands down" against NLs solo anyway. Not sure if you guys are asking for this table but, here you go. http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/937/mapledps.png

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kamikaas 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Incorrect : Well-funded dexless NLs dont have to be those that wear Luk equips. My first NL had a base dex of 25 and i used a craven. I was therefore Dexless. My NL actually outdamages my hero despite the funding i put on my hero, but then again, the majority of it was on one weapon. We're talking about DPM here. What the hell is "hands on". And heros dont win "hands down" against NLs solo anyway. Not sure if you guys are asking for this table but, here you go. http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/937/mapledps.png [/quote] im pretty sure hero wins solo, and if thers 3 monsters heros wins solo or not :D

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CrayonScribble 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

In solo party DPM, Hero beats NL in every way.

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Incorrect 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kamikaas : im pretty sure hero wins solo, and if thers 3 monsters heros wins solo or not :D [/quote] Im pretty sure you're right, in many cases. However, it depends quite heavily on the location. Plus, solo doesnt have to mean no buffs. But despite this, the difference isnt huge. Its significant enough to be noticed, but not significant enough to cause a huge fuss over. I didnt like my hero though, so i could be biased. :O

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Kevvl + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wait a sec, since when does having the massive amount of DEX required to wear a high level claw warrant being called DexLESS? Seems a bit counter productive to me. Either way, stats don't matter as much as raw power. Depends what we're talking here. Mobs? Hero. Single Target Solo? Hero. With SE? Nightlord. Anything that deals more than 5k damage? Hero. With Apples? Probably closer to a tie, depending on funds and if the Nightlord has efficient use of secondary stats or not.

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Rexthief 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hero has the better solo DPM and Nl is better buffed especially appled

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Incorrect 06/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kevvl : Wait a sec, since when does having the massive amount of DEX required to wear a high level claw warrant being called DexLESS? Seems a bit counter productive to me. Either way, stats don't matter as much as raw power. Depends what we're talking here. Mobs? Hero. Single Target Solo? Hero. With SE? Nightlord. Anything that deals more than 5k damage? Hero. With Apples? Probably closer to a tie, depending on funds and if the Nightlord has efficient use of secondary stats or not. [/quote] It just works that way. OT: Pretty much everything this guy said, except i believe the apples benefit NLs more. Funding is pretty much what everything depends on, since NLs can HP wash which gets rid of the HP issue. Its such a rip though, i regret it so badly. Coulda blown a few more weapons up XD

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