Damage Penalty Formula?

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thread starter sicktagger Jun 23 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not from attacking higher level monsters, but I've heard you'll take extra damage for wearing low-level stuff regardless of WDef? I ask becaus as you can see, I wear nub gear (12STR Top & 18DEX Bottom, both UH). Anyway, if this is true, can anyone help me out with a formula for it? Just a little worried that I'll be screwed for HT runs in the future.

My Characters: FallingSkys - 138 Mardia Corsair

whatzcrackin + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I think you take more damage cause your nub gear gives barely any WDEF.. I doubt you would take more damage just for the purpose of having nub gear.

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Kevvl + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Aside from the W-Def, there's no significant difference from that. I'd link you to a program that calculates your damage taken, but the download website AND the forum site are both blocked. If you wanna work it out yourself, the formula looks something like mob damage = random(0.8 ~ 0.85) * att^2/100 if job is warrior: modifier = str/7 + dex/4 + int/9 + luk/4 else: modifier = 2*str/5 + dex/7 + int/9 + luk/4 num = 0.28 + modifier/800 if defense>=PDD value: reduction = 0.7*(level/1300 + 8/9*num)*(def-PDD) + (num*def) else: -if level < 15: reduction = 1.3*(level/550 + num)*(def-PDD) + (num*def) -else: (13/(level-2))*(level/550 + num)*(def-PDD) + (num*def) damage taken = mob damage - reduction StandardPDD values (for people over level 100) are: 494 for warriors 266 for mages 298 for archers 331 for thieves 309 for pirates

My Characters: NautKevvl - 127 Bera Corsair

MyLiquidSnake 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I agree that you take more damage because of your lack of WDEF.

My Characters: WHYF4 - 105 Khaini Chief Bandit

MesoAvarice 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't think Nexon care about the pixels that you are wearing but if you want to be safe then buy some NX. =P Seriously, nub equips = nub equips?

My Characters: HeroAvarice - 25 Galicia Warrior

ISnowyI 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Z Helm has a low level requirement but I think it's probably more effective than almost all other hats. Upgrade your top please? o;

My Characters: ISnovvyI - 69 Broa Bandit

sicktagger + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Did nobody pay any attention to the fact that I have a 30-stat setup, and it's U/H? Above , how did helm come into this at all? I wear a Scar. I'm only talking about my top/bottom. Thanks, Kevvl, very helpful! Doin' me some math.

My Characters: FallingSkys - 138 Mardia Corsair

Protevs 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

They added a new formulae more based on level a long time ago. A lvl 120 with noob gear would take more damage on the same monster as a lvl 10 with noob gear. In simple words, you get punished for not wearing high-lvl gear (which also has higher w.def/m.def).

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Kevvl + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

^Level of gear does in fact not affect damage taken. [quote] sicktagger : Did nobody pay any attention to the fact that I have a 30-stat setup, and it's U/H? Above , how did helm come into this at all? I wear a Scar. I'm only talking about my top/bottom. Thanks, Kevvl, very helpful! Doin' me some math. [/quote] Not really, I just copy-pasted something from the website!

My Characters: NautKevvl - 127 Bera Corsair

sicktagger + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Protevs : They added a new formulae more based on level a long time ago. A lvl 120 with noob gear would take more damage on the same monster as a lvl 10 with noob gear. In simple words, you get punished for not wearing high-lvl gear (which also has higher w.def/m.def). [/quote] Just did the math and it certainly doesn't seem that way. The difference is even larger when I consider I'll be taking larger hits from HT. But eh, not that bad. It's never really been noticable for me before now, since Zak doesn't hit much, and apart from that, I don't really ever tank anything. In summary: Pew pew?

My Characters: FallingSkys - 138 Mardia Corsair

ISnowyI 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm just saying that Z helms are pretty godly but they don't have a level requirement of 120.

My Characters: ISnovvyI - 69 Broa Bandit

whatzcrackin 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hammer your clothes and scroll for DEF ;D WIN!

My Characters: SNSDlovesME - 96 Bera Chief Bandit

Kevvl + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] sicktagger : Just did the math and it certainly doesn't seem that way. The difference is even larger when I consider I'll be taking larger hits from HT. But eh, not that bad. It's never really been noticable for me before now, since Zak doesn't hit much, and apart from that, I don't really ever tank anything. In summary: Pew pew? [/quote] Just go Google a "Hit Simulator with Defense Calculation". It should do you well. Level of equipment is not required because, hey! It's not useful in the server data as relevant.

My Characters: NautKevvl - 127 Bera Corsair

ninjakitty2 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

W.Def will be much better with 2.0

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MesoAvarice 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I think Maplestory is the only game where you can level up without your defense increasing. If you remove all of the passive skills, buffs, armor and let a snail touch you, you would take the same damage as a lv10. Only reason you level is for the avoidably (AP), SP, and the ability to wear higher gear. Of course the small amount of HP add up over time.

My Characters: HeroAvarice - 25 Galicia Warrior