Need help with dota lol

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thread starter poomaiac Jun 23 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I've been looking around guides for magina (not to be confuzzled with... you know), it says i should go mana break first, but personally i get go blink first, and what the question i really was going to ask was what is your item build (list everything you use)

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Freeaznboy + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lol only newbs (not noobs) go with blink first, mana break is essential for destroying your opponents mana which leads up to your ultimate the more mana you can take out the more your ultimate dishes, along with it giving you extra damage. First off id start off with levels 1-5: 3 mana break 1 blink and 1 spell shield Level 6: get your ulti rest of the levels: continue getting mana break and spell shield then get blink then att boost depending on which game mode you like to play 3v3 or 5v5 you have to specify cause you get different gold amounts so i can't really give you an item build right now but i can still give you a build Start the game out with 2-3 wraith bands they give you a pretty good stat boost then go for a vanguard, because you're not only going up against mages you're gonna go up against str heroes too so vanguard is helpful or you can go for power treads, power treads are reccomended because they increase your attack speed thus allowing more mana drain then get a cranium basher and then butterfly you should be set after this.

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Primvera 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lvl:1 mana break (most likely u arent gonna get hurt THAT much if u play right) lvl2:blink lvl3:manabreak lvl4:blink lvl:5 manabreak lvl6:ultimate forgot what its called lvl 7: maxed mana break lvl8: blink lvl9: max blink lvl 10: the 3rd skill which give magic resistance lvl 11: ultimate lvl12-14:magic resistance skill 15:stats 16:ult 17-25:stats

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kt132 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I haven't played him much but mana break is a key skill so just get blink on lvl 1,4,8,9 and mana on lvl 2,3,5,7 or blink on lvl 1,3,4,9 and mana on 2,5,7,8,10

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Freeaznboy + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kt132 : I haven't played him much but mana break is a key skill so just get blink on lvl 1,4,8,9 and mana on lvl 2,3,5,7 or blink on lvl 1,3,4,9 and mana on 2,5,7,8,10 [/quote] your second build doesnt make sense you put mana for 5 levels and you put blink on 1,3,4 you can't have a level 3 skill at 4 oh and vladmirs gives a nice boost too, lifesteal and mana steal

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sols + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sorry, I quit dota when HON came out, but I'll try my best to remember what I built. Mana break first because you shouldn't need to blink away at level one, if you do then either you're playing way too aggressive or need a lane swap. That being said, Magina is a hero that should harass others early on, once you reach lv 3; either attack -> blink, or blink -> attack -> run/blink. Magina is also a hero that needs adequate farm to preform well, if you can't manage at least 200gpm, I don't suggest you play the hero. As for item builds: -250g shield, 1x tangos, 1x healing salve, GG branches. While laning: 5+ regen ring (forgot name), boots if you need it; shouldn't be a problem since you have blink. ->finish vanguard, treads next; if your team is doing well, neut farm/ ask for lane farm. -> your next item should be your attack modifier and since Magina has one of the fastest attack speeds (animation cancel or without) HoD -> Satanic -> Next is damage, again, if your team is doing well, consider rushing a Butterfly, or go for a MKB. Considering a NON-EM pub game, and the ragers/griefers on bnet, that should be it. PS: Consider investing in a BKB if their team has 3+ stuns or a hardcore disable, ie, Rhasta.

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FirezRage 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

my build for magina is: for skills get blink, manabreak, blink, manabreak (get ult whenever u can eg. lvl 6 and so on) until both of them are maxed then go mana shield w/e then stats last. as for items, i build perseverance, that 100% melee block shield and 225g axe for last hitting, easy block, and regen to stay in the lane. i go straight for bfury (or u could get 2 wraiths and treads first but hey w/e u want) and then farm for 2 wraiths and treads if u havent already. NOTE treads are ALWAYS set on STR. i think thats about it. what else u wanna ask TS?

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Freeaznboy 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] FirezRage : my build for magina is: for skills get blink, manabreak, blink, manabreak (get ult whenever u can eg. lvl 6 and so on) until both of them are maxed then go mana shield w/e then stats last. as for items, i build perseverance, that 100% melee block shield and 225g axe for last hitting, easy block, and regen to stay in the lane. i go straight for bfury (or u could get 2 wraiths and treads first but hey w/e u want) and then farm for 2 wraiths and treads if u havent already. NOTE treads are ALWAYS set on STR. i think thats about it. what else u wanna ask TS? [/quote] if you're getting blink first what are you going to be doing? blinking at level 1 is absurd because you're going to die if you lane with two stunners or even one stunner. perserverance is pointless with a vanguard considering the vanguard regens your health fast also when you get your vanguard/vladmirs start neut creeping you free up a solo lane and you farm more gold faster and if your team mate is good he'll warn you when they're coming for you so you can blink out

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sols 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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Freeaznboy + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] sols : Perserverance can be useful is you're looking to build a Battefury on magina, the cleave is nice for farming and the price is quite cheap considering it gives 65 damage. I don't see the use of vlads though, because you will not be participating in most of the early-game teamfights, which renders the aura useless. [/quote] its not the aura that im looking for its for neuts mainly because if you have a vlads you can pretty much stay in neuts for 1/4th of the game and also bf wouldnt be that good, well i mean it would be if you're considering farming for a longer than 1/4th of the game but by then you should be able to kill creeps pretty fast even without bf so yeah

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FirezRage 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Freeaznboy : if you're getting blink first what are you going to be doing? blinking at level 1 is absurd because you're going to die if you lane with two stunners or even one stunner. perserverance is pointless with a vanguard considering the vanguard regens your health fast also when you get your vanguard/vladmirs start neut creeping you free up a solo lane and you farm more gold faster and if your team mate is good he'll warn you when they're coming for you so you can blink out [/quote] vanguard is a waste of cash. having str treads, 2 wraiths & pers is enough to suffice. the pers can become a bfury later on which does not lose efficiency later on in mid-late game compared to a vanguard which you'll probably end up selling in the end. getting blink is a safe way to get out of harm's way, if a stunner tries to get u eg. leoric's homing stun and others. plus u can tell wen ur gonna get ganked so u can blink then go hug tower and last hit whenever u can without getting killed. leveling blink lowers cd so u can maneuver a lot faster with it means more strategic survival. look, im here to just post and inform TS of what i believe is right on magina. not to debate/argue on whose right and whose wrong. u dont see me quoting ur post and critisizing what you've said cuz frankly i dont give a damn.

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ltachifire 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y ?

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poomaiac 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I aim for Orchid, BFLY, Assualt Curisass, Vladmir offering,Vanguard, and offering i know its a bad choice but idk i play well with it

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sols 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Freeaznboy : its not the aura that im looking for its for neuts mainly because if you have a vlads you can pretty much stay in neuts for 1/4th of the game and also bf wouldnt be that good, well i mean it would be if you're considering farming for a longer than 1/4th of the game but by then you should be able to kill creeps pretty fast even without bf so yeah [/quote] But then I would say Helm of Dominator would be a more practical choice as you can control a creep and later on turn it into a Satanic, 25% lifesteal anyone?

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Tylernol 06/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You need blink level 1. The mana burn doesn't make a huge difference, blink can.

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