Wouldn't the KMST thing ruin DBs?

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thread starter MisterCold Jun 19 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

since Thorns works good with classes w/o crit, but in KMST everyone has crit :O so wouldn't Thorns be ... crap?

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Celspell 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Awesome... (obvious sarcasm)

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senpac 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

the way i see things is gms is kms's bit**

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akablackthug 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

it still buffs themselves for some extra damage

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xChrissy 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yea I asked that question in another thread but no one answered yet... and once they decrease its percentage rates and with every class getting passive Crit, I feel like its just gonna be another SE, but worse.

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MisterCold 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xChrissy : Yea I asked that question in another thread but no one answered yet... and once they decrease its percentage rates and with every class getting passive Crit, I feel like its just gonna be another SE, but worse. [/quote] I have the same feeling, unless they make it stackable (since SE get nerfed aswell)

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PotStickers 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I dunno about DBs but it'll ruin those rude little ksing fu(cks with their ultimate cooldowns. Evans are cool though brah.

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MisterCold 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] PotStickers : I dunno about DBs but it'll ruin those rude little ksing fu(cks with their ultimate cooldowns. Evans are cool though brah. [/quote] not talking about that, the point of this thread is to find out the usefellness of thorns after that patch

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PotStickers 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MisterCold : not talking about that, the point of this thread is to find out the usefellness of thorns after that patch [/quote] Oh.....right, sorry. I think it'll still be useful. There's always room for extra damage since the new damage cap is 999k.

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xChrissy 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] PotStickers : I dunno about DBs but it'll ruin those rude little ksing fu(cks with their ultimate cooldowns. Evans are cool though brah. [/quote] Kinda random much? But also, with the SE, BM's crit rate went down to like 15%, while DB's went down to 10%. I thought the high Crit rate from Thorns, was what made it better then SE.

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SnowMan101 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

And, your just realising this or are you just joshing with us all?

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hyperfire7 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No, it's just making the Dual Bladers more balanced with other jobs. Since all jobs are getting passive critical rate, you don't need a high critical % anymore. This is why in KMST Aran's Critical Percentage and Sharp Eye has halved,

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xChrissy 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hyperfire7 : No, it's just making the Dual Bladers more balanced with other jobs. Since all jobs are getting passive critical rate, you don't need a high critical % anymore. This is why in KMST Aran's Critical Percentage and Sharp Eye has halved, [/quote] No.. its not really making them more balanced by lowering Thorns crit rate, its just making DB's more useless. If everyone has some sort of crit, then it means they wont really need to party DB's for that extra crit anymore.

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johny2toes 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Are you honestly saying you only want to be a DB to be 'useful' (aka. Thorns mule)? It shouldn't even matter, DBs were already over-powered having Thorns cut.. basically in half balances them out. The entire Thorns formula will probably be changed, if not it'll be a self-buff. DBs still have very high damage out-put even with the patch, and the most important point is they are still fun. Also you're not even looking at the most important concept... % gear is the biggest reason for this patch. A DB was already practically hitting 5 200k dmgs in one CoH with the old formula, this made them pretty unfair compared to other classes. And % gear is also going to change the concept of which class is the strongest. Probability Scrolling relies heavily on how well the item is scrolled prior to using it, meaning only heavily funded players will have the highest dmg output. It will allow even a Shadower to out damage a Corsair if done right. But overall, the strongest class will probably be xbowman unless they change how Snipe works... Remember it always used to by-pass the dmg cap... the dmg cap is raised to 999k.. and Snipe's cooldown is lowered to 4 seconds.

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trips486 06/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

We wont get this patch for at least 6 months. Not to mention it is in testing phase so anything can change from then till when it is offically released in kms. Lastly, remember GMS doesn't always follow kms. Most of the time they do and most likely we will get this patch but their is still a chance that we wont get this patch or get the full thing. Point is don't worry about what might happen in the future and just enjoy your DB when they come out. We still got tons more things before that patch is going to be actually released in gms. I say earliest Dec/Jan and latest next summer. Until then call down and just don't think about it. You will probably be really high lvl, at lvl 200, or have quit your char by then anyway that it wouldn't be such a big deal anymore to you.

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