Genesis now has a 40 sec cooldown in KMST

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thread starter Takeback3r Jun 17 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1306/127679579601.jpg Also, magic damage is now based on a % like all other classes, and the magic range is now the same as the damage range just like all other classes. These changes are visible in the screenshot. Discuss. Edit: Scratch that. It's a 30 second cooldown, not 40.

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irjtr27 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's weird how all you guys are complaining about is training... Yea, training is an aspect of it, but think about how bossing will be affected. Since training will be nerfed to a huge extent, no one will play a bishop, unless for some reason you absolutely love being a bishop with nerfed genesis. Bishops are a major part of boss runs, especially higher level bosses, like HT. Without Bishops, boss runs would cost a lot more due to the purchase of Wheels. More boss runs would fail, and Evans would be a popular support type class just for Soul Stone. Evans would be the only mages left... And everyone thought that Marksmen were extinct.

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Nashi 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gino : Mages don't train at ToT. [/quote] No.. Elemental... Weakness..... besides my BasilID is written with one i

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Gino + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Nashi : No.. Elemental... Weakness..... besides my BasilID is written with one i [/quote] Mages don't train at ToT because of the map layout, not because the monsters there aren't weak to their attacks. The maps are huge, so you can only really hit maybe 5 monsters at a time with ultimate, compared to a full 15 at skeles. Also, the monsters there give marginally better xp with a huge increase to hp. 4 hitting 5 monsters for 7k xp each isn't as good as 2 hitting 15 monsters for 5k xp each. @Below: Well, the example I gave applied more to bishops than AM's, but yeah, ToT isn't for xp. Not for any class. It's incredibly slow becuase you spend more time moving than you do attacking. What were they thinking making the maps so insanely huge with such little spawn?

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Etrieys 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gino : Mages don't train at ToT because of the map layout, not because the monsters there aren't weak to their attacks. The maps are huge, so you can only really hit maybe 5 monsters at a time with ultimate, compared to a full 15 at skeles. Also, the monsters there give marginally better xp with a huge increase to hp. 4 hitting 5 monsters for 7k xp each isn't as good as 2 hitting 15 monsters for 5k xp each. [/quote] Even 100% one-hit at Oblivion 4/5 is bad EXP compared to skeles. I tested it. Still sucks, especially with the reduced PoT droprate.

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Nashi 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gino : Mages don't train at ToT because of the map layout, not because the monsters there aren't weak to their attacks. The maps are huge, so you can only really hit maybe 5 monsters at a time with ultimate, compared to a full 15 at skeles. Also, the monsters there give marginally better xp with a huge increase to hp. 4 hitting 5 monsters for 7k xp each isn't as good as 2 hitting 15 monsters for 5k xp each. [/quote] o.o the maps I know are quite good though.... strange... my BF and I spent quite a while there b4 and I didn't find it bad actually but I can just repeat the game is for fun and if you're not happy with how it works... then yeah... lol and thanks for changing <.<"

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mattonoh1 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

perhaps with all these downs there will be an up! say maybe the mage's exp curve is greatly lessened? or perhaps there will be new skills that are so great HS and Gen have nothing on them.. who knows its a test server O.o might never happen! but look at the skill under Gen and think about what it does... then think about the gen cooldown..maybe there is a coorelation?

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LitheMovement 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I laughed. I don't boss, I don't leech, I don't even use Holy Symbol and I usually go on 1x most of the time. It's safe to say this doesn't really affect me at all! Seeing all you guys in this despair-like state though is pretty funny.

ArthurSam + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] NinjaZombie : Why does nexon seem to be picking on bishops? They nerfed the elemental wands... Then they amplified A/Ms ultimates (although they deserve it because bishop is a support class and shouldn't outdamage the non-support mages) now they are nerfing genesis even though it's weaker than blizard and meteor... Seriously. WTF. Bishops are ONLY good at training. They have crappy health, they can't boss (except for support). Their only means of making money was selling leech. They won't be able to sell leech anymore, but heroes will still be able to sell BF leech and Anego leech is still available. So they aren't getting of leech, just bishop leech. This is a stupid move on nexons part and I think it will mess this game up if they decide to impliment it. [/quote] Bishop's leech is already slow compared to anego/bf leech or training... at least from 5x~8x btw, i wanna know more about the new sexy skills DrKs will get! <3 @Gino: since when ToT is bad for training? I've trained there a long time and did like 4~5 levels in 2 hours... i find it entertaining to walk around and for warriors is ok not to have a gazillion of mobs, you just rush the monsters and create your mobs..

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PyritsNoSwiping 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

they probably going to add some moves, otherwise the whole bishop class is only good for resurrection and heal

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Gino 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ArthurSam : Bishop's leech is already slow compared to anego/bf leech or training... at least from 5x~8x btw, i wanna know more about the new sexy skills DrKs will get! <3 [/quote] Where can I find info on the new skills people keep talking about?

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ArthurSam 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gino : Where can I find info on the new skills people keep talking about? [/quote] There's a whole thread about it or go to http://www.s0uthperry.net/showthread.php?t=28123&page=3

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MSforlife 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Aww A/M's are getting a cooldown too apparently. D: So much for my F/P mage

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Gino + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ArthurSam : There's a whole thread about it or go to http://www.s0uthperry.net/showthread.php?t=28123&page=3 [/quote] Thanks. Wow. PQ's are all to level 200 now. I can do ludi pq on my MM :D

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therebegold 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well to those who mocked the evan ulitmate, Karma is a a b..., And anyway these changes proably wont happen for some months so you have plenty of time to ultimate spam

xNaglfarx 06/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] WkRequiem : too bad those leechers will be ksing you for maps to train on instead huh? [/quote] I can handle non-mage ksers, Iam just happy there wont be bishops in every other map simply because they are leeching someone, Iam gald the maps will go to people that will actually be there while training not someone who paid a bishop to do it for them.

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