Bandits after the balance patch

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thread starter mitkonz Jun 14 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So i havent seen any posts regarding the upgrade of steal... since probably no one cares about bandits atm since dual blades are coming soon-ish but anyway, I care because I'm making a bandit soon and I want to know this: Will maxing steal first allow me to train faster than if I max sb first? from what I've heard steal will do 120% x 4 which is the same as sb overall but I watched a vid and steal attacks slower than sb.. so would sb still be the way to go for training or will steal improve training speed? Thanks for your replies.

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dongyil 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I think steal will be faster since it is a mob attack, but i don't think anyone can really be sure unless they've tried it.

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kcwt + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

EDIT: nvm.... =]

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Yuenlung 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SB is 6 hits on 1 monster. Steal is 1 hit on 4 monsters. Steal doesn't get defense counted against the damage so many times, so it would be better. SB is actually not that fast imo... On top of that, can you really complain about increased drops?

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mitkonz 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Yuenlung : SB is 6 hits on 1 monster. Steal is 1 hit on 4 monsters. Steal doesn't get defense counted against the damage so many times, so it would be better. SB is actually not that fast imo... On top of that, can you really complain about increased drops? [/quote] Good point about the damage reduction..

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fatalsin 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Definately going to try this... but I a horrible feeling about doing it. Do bandits normally max out steal? Might mess up a later level skill builds cause I'm pretty sure sb is better in the long run... However, in the really long run (4th job) B-step is going to be more spammable? hopefully not so shadowers have 100% invincibility but enough to not have to sb a few times between each b-step.

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Ghetto415 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I guess steal is good but belive me, if you get to 4th job... you wouldn't use it.

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Bliggity 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You could still use it for farming certain drops. Also, does Taunt + Steal work together? cause that'd be pretty nice for PoT farming me thinks...

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mitkonz 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Ghetto415 : I guess steal is good but belive me, if you get to 4th job... you wouldn't use it. [/quote] Im aiming more towards 3rd job atm... Since I doubt I will get to 4th, but still even in 3rd job steal will get replaced by BOT... Up to now bandits have not been maxing steal but I see a possible change in this... I watched a vid of the new steal in action It doesnt look half bad...Lvl 50 normal dex bandit was doing about 1.2k per monster with it.

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TheGoatfry 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

people never used to max out steal. We used to put it all into endure just cause steal is so useless. People will probably take from endure which will cost you more pot-wise but it never saved much in the first palce anyway. Pots are so cheap now anyway, everyone has so much money.

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itzkento 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] fatalsin : Definately going to try this... but I a horrible feeling about doing it. Do bandits normally max out steal? Might mess up a later level skill builds cause I'm pretty sure sb is better in the long run... However, in the really long run (4th job) B-step is going to be more spammable? hopefully not so shadowers have 100% invincibility but enough to not have to sb a few times between each b-step. [/quote] You can max both SB and Steal, just skip endure instead

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mitkonz 06/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What exactly does endure do? and how does it save pots?

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DarkQuill + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] mitkonz : What exactly does endure do? and how does it save pots? [/quote] Heals more HP/MP, and allows HP regen on ropes/ladders. While the HP regen isn't something you'd leap for, the boost in MP regen is pretty good. As it currently is, each passive MP regen while on the move gives you around enough MP for another Savage Blow. Might not seem like much, but some instances require a lot of running around, especially travelling from area to area. An MP boost is an MP boost, after all. With the Endure boost, MP will deplete a little slower over time, and build up any missing reserves while doing some running about. Steal has a good chance of being the better option, but considering it's only a 140% attack, and the inherent low attack of Bandits in the first place, you'd have to be training on large mobs of weak enemies to get the most benefit from it. Until obtaining Meso Guard, Bandits typically don't jump into mobs of enemies for a good reason ;p

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angelmois 06/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Short of having a long range and being able to hit 4 people at once at all times, Savage blow is still stronger. It's like the invisbleshot vs Burst fire thing.

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