Sacrifice or Dragon Roar?

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thread starter DeathLogo Jun 04 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Do you guys use Sacrifice or Dragon roar to get your HP lower? And I'm pretty sure a hybrid should max DR, but are there any other uses for Sac/DR instead of lowering HP for Zerk?

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TheRebel 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Most of the youtube videos when people are bfing i see people use sacrifice to lower there hp to keep bf pinned and i guess they would use roar while they train

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cookie4mesos 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dragon Roar's by far more useful. Sacrifice can help if you go just over it, but it isn't used frequently. Roar is good for aggro-ing monsters at place like Typhons and Wolf Spiders in the pit.

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DeepRuin 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Situational; DR would be better for Skeles, Sac for something like BF.

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DeathLogo 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thank you for your inputs. This helps a lot.

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ArthurSam 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I use roar more... used it all the time to get typhoons close...

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zFrostie 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

max roar...then when u get down to having your main stuff maxed..and you have to decide between power break and sacrifice...put 1 in power break and the rest in sac.

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DeathLogo 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

-From Hybrid DK guide. [quote] Daniel3b : For a hybrid the best build for training would be: Level 70: +1 PA Fury Level 71-79: +3 PA Fury Level 80: +2 PA Fury, +1 Element Resistance Level 81: +3 Sacrifice Level 82-90: +3 Dragon Roar Level 91: +2 Dragon Roar, +1 Spear Crusher Level 92-100: +3 Spear Crusher Level 101: +2 Spear Crusher, +1 Ele Resistance Level 102-107: +3 Ele Resistance Level 108-117: +3 Spear Fury And put your leftover points into Iron Will This way you should end up with 19/20 Iron Will Max PA Fury Max Spear Crusher Max Spear Fury Max Ele Resistance Max Dragon Roar 3 Sacrifice [/quote] Well is Power Crash really worth it? Does that mean I shouldn't put the points in IW?

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TheRebel 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] DeathLogo : -From Hybrid DK guide. Well is Power Crash really worth it? Does that mean I shouldn't put the points in IW? [/quote] Honestly i never see people use crusher for anything exept keeping bf pinned and bossing maybe it can be a good skill but ill never know i probably will end up putting my extra points in it

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deedeedee401 06/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DR will basically set you to the limit at which you need it at to gain the zerk effect in one shot, while Sac will take much longer

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djp2313 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Droar is useful for typhoons and getting into zerk quickly Sac is useful for small drops of hp to get you to zerk but is just as effective at level 1 as it is at level 30 for that. Level 1 does less damage but takes away more hp and level 30 does more damage but takes away a smaller percentage of that damage. So in terms of usefulness you'll get much more out of max droar and level 5 sac then level 1 roar (which has a pathetic range) and max sac Power crash has one situational use atm and that is at cwkpq when you're bishop isn't paying attention and doesn't dispel or is just plain incompetent. Not worth it in my eyes but I know a select few who have gone this route.

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infferrno 06/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

On Zak Runs, I've seen DrK use DRoar and then Sacrifice once or twice. o-o

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duskreaper 06/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dragon roar is better to max, level 3 sacrifice is plenty if you want to use that to lower your HP. I'm pretty sure level 3 Sac lowers your HP by more anyways

daniel3b + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] DeathLogo : -From Hybrid DK guide. Well is Power Crash really worth it? Does that mean I shouldn't put the points in IW? [/quote] I just wanted to clear something up about why IW is probably the best choice for your leftover points. First off, know that it's not too important. None of the skills that you shouldn't have already maxed are vital. Basically, it comes down to IW, Power crash, DB, or sac. You have D-Roar in place of sac, and you already have 3 sac. DB is pointless as it still drains your HP/MP and costs you in pots that way, and you could just buy warrior elixirs or use beholder's buff in 4th job, or even ciders. As for power crash or IW, you'll simply use IW more. It will slightly save you a tiny bit of pot costs over time, and you can use it any time you are fighting a monster. Power crash, the only time you would use it would be at the boss part of CWKPQ. Basically, you're comparing a skill that you can use when you are training/bossing, and a skill you can use when you are bossing at cwkpq. However, it is obviously up to you.

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Mancartia 06/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Basically, Blessing is better than IW and Dispel is better than Power Crash. So every time you're able to party a priest, the priest can replace those skills.

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