If these are hackers, do they realize they are risking jail?
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thread starter myrdrex May 23 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
The title refers to the connectivity issues Scania is currently experiencing. I hope it's a simple server glitch or a problem with Nexon's ISP. However, if this truly is a set of script kiddies playing with some way to crash a server/disconnect an entire server (or cluster of servers), I truly hope they realize they are playing with fire here. This would absolutely cross the line into Nexon involving the authorities here. It's one thing to scam people on a video game, that's just rude. But we're talking about crashing the servers or effectively performing a DDOS on a multi-hundred-million-dollar international corporate entity. You know what happens when people try to perform DDOS attacks on major companies like Amazon or whatever? The FBI gets involved, since it's considered a VERY serious infraction of national and international law. There's actually an entire department of the US Justice department (justice.gov / criminal / cybercrime) dedicated to this. And it's not just for major crimes, the 3rd link is some idiot student hacking other computers creating a zombie network, he's looking at possible jail time and forever having a felony record. Man I hope for these kids sake this is just a simple Nexon glitch. I also hope these ever more prominent hackers realize that one day Nexon could throw the book at them if Nexon looses any money because of it.
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t43l 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I'd rather the cause be player-induced. Let it be an example.
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TheSupervisor + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I don't really know what to say to this (lack of effort mainly). Ahh... good?
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alqannas 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] t43l : I'd rather the cause be player-induced. Let it be an example. [/quote] lmao... can't agree more ... but they're still getting their money tho -_-
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wzrdmerlin 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Good, the game will be better off without the little 12 year olds who think they're cool. Also all the e-nerds that are older than that.
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hehehoho 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
yes yes as an FBI my self, I am working to find the script kiddies... JOKES
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Slink199 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
what does DDOS stand for?
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casltewars + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
These darn script kiddies SHALL PAY! EDIT: But yes DDOSing a corporation like that WILL involve the FBI. No exaggeration. Ive heard of people calling the police/FBI for people DDOSing their home computer. I don't think they do much for that level, but for that big, they certainly do.
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myrdrex + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Slink199 : what does DDOS stand for? [/quote] DOS = Denial of Service. DDOS = Distributed Denial of Service. It's basically a way of making a server or service inaccessible by spamming it with requests. Throwing in the "Distributed" means you're basically using more than 1 computer/location to do it. (Like a zombie network of PCs). I don't think hackers of MS are actually sophisticated enough to really be doing DDOS, but the typical DC hack would be a fairly good example of a DOS type attack.
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DeeZ 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] hehehoho : yes yes as an FBI my self, I am working to find the script kiddies... JOKES [/quote] to find them, you'd need to look in the mirror
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Icephoenix21 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] myrdrex : DOS = Denial of Service. DDOS = Distributed Denial of Service. It's basically a way of making a server or service inaccessible by spamming it with requests. Throwing in the "Distributed" means you're basically using more than 1 computer/location to do it. (Like a zombie network of PCs). I don't think hackers of MS are actually sophisticated enough to really be doing DDOS, but the typical DC hack would be a fairly good example of a DOS type attack. [/quote] aye^ I've seen you around before. You know what your talkin bout, if I recall correctly. If nexon actually does something about it, I hope its player induced, to set an example T-T idk 3 channels at a time seems awfully fishy to me.
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Successor 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I hope for the sake of our happiness that these are script kiddies, I want them to go to get into legal trouble.
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Skyenets + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I honestly think Nexon is to lenient to do something extreme and drastic like getting the FBI involved.
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myrdrex 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] casltewars : But yes DDOSing a corporation like that WILL involve the FBI. No exaggeration. Ive heard of people calling the police/FBI for people DDOSing their home computer. I don't think they do much for that level, but for that big, they certainly do. [/quote] When I was getting my MBA a couple years back, my group had to give a presentation to the rest of the class in our IT management class. The topic I chose was Network Security, and the costs on a corporation. (This was an MBA program, so I couldn't be technical, I had to be all about the bottom-line for us future executives). Anyways, the point is my team had to spend weeks researching the topic, and we found all sorts of interesting information about the costs of hackers and script kiddies on a corporation. We also found out about how seriously the authorities take the matter when they are called in. Ironically, the thing that protects most hackers is that companies are too worried about liability to ever call the authorities. But once the government's called in, they pretty much have little problem tracking the source of the problem. People think they are all safe behind TOR or other script-kiddie tools to hide their identities, but it's amazing what a warrant from the Justice department will do to each ISP in the overall IP trace eventually leading back to the source computer.
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Jasonbird1 05/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
the person or people that are doing this will continue, uninterupted until the people that buy nx stop because they cant use it anymore. when nexons wallet starts hurting thats when they start caring. so dont get you some (n)(x) today!
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