Sharp Eyes Vs. Thorns

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thread starter RisingDust May 22 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hopfully you know what both skills do... Which one is better Overall? o.o Edit: Can you use both at the same time? >.>

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RaveTechnician 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Which one adds more ATT?

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cole60 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SE /end thread

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carloslam911 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thorns is a better version of SE i think.

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GirlsD2 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

wth does thorns do anyways i know it works like se but what does it do specifically?

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turtle33 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

se for classes w/ passive crit. thorns for classes w/o passive crit.

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LEGENDairy 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What's Thorns? Unless you're talking about the Level 55 Staff..

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XaviAce 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sharp Eyes is better. Thorns's effect dwindles with more members in the party. SE doesn't.

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Valtorec 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] LEGENDairy : What's Thorns? Unless you're talking about the Level 55 Staff.. [/quote] LOL..anyways, SE is better for like evry class BUT mages and normal warriors (except aran), thorns may b better

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carloslam911 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Nvm, i thought thorns +35% critical LOL... in that case, critical>damage for classes that rely on critical a lot.

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Dhreexlexic 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SE = 15% chance of hitting 200% damage AND damdge +40% Thorns = 35% chance of hitting 200% damdge (does not work for classes that alredy have criticals eg. NL) i believe that SE is better

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knightlupo 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thorns gives better effects, but only works on classes that don't already have a passive critical chance. I'd say about equal, but I chose Thorns just because DBs own everybody

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Etrieys 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It depends. SE is better for crit classes, Thorns is better for non-crit classes. There is no comparison between them as no class will use both that can benefit from them. I think in terms of usefulness, Thorns may be better than SE, simply because on boss runs, there are a LOT of non-critical classes attacking. Mages, Warriors (Except Aran), Corsairs, Shadowers, Buccaneers (correct me if I'm wrong), who will ALL greatly benefit from a damage boost because of Thorns. SE is already pretty standard on boss runs, so I think the addition of thorns is going to see boss kill speeds drop significantly.

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chris65 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

calculations (without passive crit) SE: .15 x 2 + .85 x .4 = .64 Thorns= .35 x 2 = .7 thorns barely wins out w/o crit but with passive crit, SE all the way