Interesting Changes to Class Dps Standings

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thread starter megamerchant May 20 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

According to data from kms, with the the onset of dual blades and critical rings, the future order of adventurer warriors as far as dps from greatest to lowest will be: Dark Knight (zerking of course)>Paladin>Hero. An interesting change which makes sense to me. Hyper Body is useful but doesnt make up for the fact that your health has to be at 15k or lower to do max damage. Paladins' blast hits 1 target, and sanctuary hardly makes up for that. Since all classes have power stance, actual output should be very close to theoretical relative to each other class. Dual Blade take the title of strongest boss soloist and Arans take the title of strongest party bosser. I think Dual Bladers seem slightly overpowered cause Thorns is a good enough buff, they should make them lower damage, around bowmaster level. It is very similar to SE after all. I think it's fair Arans have the most potential as you have to repetitively click your attack button, its the first class where you might actually get physically tired of playing. Agree? Disagree?

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MorbidMagus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] williamowns : you see, corsairs and arans don't have the highest dps, so i dont get that part. [/quote] Yes they do. Arans currently have the highest DPS potential in Party situations, and the 3rd highest in Solo Situations. Corsairs have the highest DPS potential in Solo situations and the 2nd highest in party situations. Its been that way since Aran's release. You could always check the DPS charts in SP.net. Once we get Dual-Bladers Corsairs lose to DB's in Solo DPS but win in party DPS.

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Swisp 05/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Here guys, this was posted by orange111: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1918/dps20.png I believe the rankings go Arans>DBs>Corsairs

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MorbidMagus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Swisp : Here guys, this was posted by orange111: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1918/dps20.png I believe the rankings go Arans>DBs>Corsairs [/quote] Now include SI and Thorns for the Corsair and watch how it changes. Its only fair since you included Sharp eyes which Benefits Arans more then it benefits Nightlords, and since we are talking about party DPS when Sharp eyes are included.

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[quote] MorbidMagus : Now include SI and Thorns for the Corsair and watch how it changes. [/quote] Not as much as you think. Let me post a screen shot. Don't get me wrong though, I want corsairs to have the best DPM but with the data here, that just isn't true. EDIT: http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/gary5003/dpm.jpg

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MorbidMagus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Swisp : Not as much as you think. Let me post a screen shot. Don't get me wrong though, I want corsairs to have the best DPM but with the data here, that just isn't true. [/quote] I can do it for you. http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p424/Zionrelives/Desktop.jpg as you can see the Corsairs dpm matches a Dual-Bladers average DPM, as the Dual-Blader cannot keep a Constant final-cut up due to the cooldown, and thats without SI and Thorns for the corsair, lets watch what happens when we include this. Oh look, you proved it for me. Notice the "average" DPM potential for Dual-Bladers, thats included because Final-Cut has a cooldown, this means Corsairs > Dual-Blades in party situations for DPS/DPM potential.

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Formosa 05/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

How many times do I have to say this :/ Equips, Equips, Equips!

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Bello 05/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pallies have HIGHEST DPS AFTER Balance Patch....Heroes crrently have HIGHEST DPS...and a Drk with Zerk isn't higher then A Paladin... DBs have high DPM not DPS(there DPS is good but not that high).......A Pally with Fire/Lightning Charge on a fire/lightning weak monster is stronger in DPS then any class....

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Swisp + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Bello : Pallies have HIGHEST DPS AFTER Balance Patch....Heroes crrently have HIGHEST DPS...and a Drk with Zerk isn't higher then A Paladin... DBs have high DPM not DPS(there DPS is good but not that high).......A Pally with Fire/Lightning Charge on a fire/lightning weak monster is stronger in DPS then any class.... [/quote] No, DKs are still higher.

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MorbidMagus 05/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

With Thorns* and if you didn't read my edit, you proved yourself wrong in the Dual-Blade > Corsair debate.

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PraisedAura 05/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Eww flame infestead thread

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SufSurf + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

But.. Isn't DPM more important than DPS? If we talk about DPM, how would the list go? EDIT: @Im asking MorbidMagus o.o

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[quote] PraisedAura : Eww flame infestead thread [/quote] I would like too see these flames. Although I do expect them to be hitting any time now. @above Damage per Second is the same thing as Damage per Minute, you just take DPS and multiply it by 60. You sir are thinking about Damage per Strike, which is only relevant in training situations when compared.

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williamowns 05/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MorbidMagus : I would like too see these flames. Although I do expect them to be hitting any time now. @above Damage per second is the same thing as Damage per minute, you just take DPS and multiply it by 60. You sir are thinking about Damage per Strike, which is only relevant in training situations when compared. [/quote] nope dpm =/= dps x 60 if it was then sairs wont be on top, either marksman with max snipe, or shadower would.

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SufSurf 05/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MorbidMagus : I would like too see these flames. Although I do expect them to be hitting any time now. @above Damage per second is the same thing as Damage per minute, you just take DPS and x it by 60. You sir are thinking about Damage per Strike, which is only relevant in training situations when compared. [/quote] Yeah, but you said the DB thing has a cooldown, wouldnt it affect it? And last time I saw the GMS DPM chart it went like this I believe When in party: Corsair Night Lord BowMaster Hero? blabla When solo: Corsair BowMaster Hero Marksmen Night Lord? blabla Amirite?

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megamerchant + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Formosa : How many times do I have to say this :/ Equips, Equips, Equips! [/quote] Lots of people like to be diplomatic saying this, but it's simply untrue unless class dpm is very close. Do you have any idea how much w. atk a nl needs to match a bm? Just saying :P @ above, you're right @ william, nope, dps is also calculated as an average, it's not the first second of the strike :P

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