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thread starter Bose May 15 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

basicly things have been said and ect ect and everyone is waiting for the new DB class to come out and are frantic gathering up daggers and whatnot, i was looking through some screenies on google and soem videos, and ive been noticing that well, some of them show dual bladers with a dagger, and soem of them show dual bladers with 2 blades(the new blades) so wich one is it?

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AltairHawk 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

They all show DBs with 1 Dagger, 1 Blade. You just got confused.... It's really dumb; basically the new "Blade" is just a fancier Kanjar that they can get every 10 levels instead of twice.... Just a shield really; lame way to implement dual-wielding.

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djmh13 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AltairHawk : They all show DBs with 1 Dagger, 1 Blade. You just got confused.... It's really dumb; basically the new "Blade" is just a fancier Kanjar that they can get every 10 levels instead of twice.... Just a shield really; lame way to implement dual-wielding. [/quote] dude no because a shield gives def the blade gives attack and is used as a second weapon to attack with

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mymainacc 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Its always 1 dagger and 1 blade. Its a weapon and used for attacking. Go search some youtube vids of them. You'll see what i mean.

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hongyu1230 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AltairHawk : They all show DBs with 1 Dagger, 1 Blade. You just got confused.... It's really dumb; basically the new "Blade" is just a fancier Kanjar that they can get every 10 levels instead of twice.... Just a shield really; lame way to implement dual-wielding. [/quote] a shield doesn't have it's own dmg range, a blade has it's own dmg range. a shield doesn't attack and can't be boosted, a blade can be boosted in speed.

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djmh13 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hongyu1230 : a shield doesn't have it's own dmg range, a blade has it's own dmg range [/quote] exactly thats what i was saying in diff words though

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AltairHawk 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] djmh13 : dude no because a shield gives def the blade gives attack and is used as a second weapon to attack with [/quote] Know what a Kanjar is? Look it up; it is BASICALLY a Blade with a few small differences in mechanics. And while they don't have an attack animation or skills for them, they are still the same thing....It is the skills that are different....

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cooliee125 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hongyu1230 : a shield doesn't have it's own dmg range, a blade has it's own dmg range. a shield doesn't attack and can't be boosted, a blade can be boosted in speed. [/quote] youre right

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StreetRunnaz 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

But Khanjars dont have there own dmge range, To me Khanjars are like a second WG....

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irT3hSex 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Let's summarise this; 1) They use 1 blade and 1 dagger. 2) Blade =/= Khanjar. The attacks alternate between the dagger and the blade, and if you notice every other hit is significantly weaker then the previous. This is the blade being used instead of the dagger. A Khanjar will only increase your damage with the dagger, a blade will be used to actually attack the monster. It's blatantly NOT the same thing. 3) AltairHawk needs to stop talking as if he knows what he's on about.

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s0ulReaper13 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Look at irT3hSex. The format is that the blade will be in one hand and a dagger on the other hand. The blade has its on attk and hp. As stated before Dragon Khanjars or Khanjars =/=blades. Please research more.

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AltairHawk 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] irT3hSex : Let's summarise this; 1) They use 1 blade and 1 dagger. 2) Blade =/= Khanjar. The attacks alternate between the dagger and the blade, and if you notice every other hit is significantly weaker then the previous. This is the blade being used instead of the dagger. A Khanjar will only increase your damage with the dagger, a blade will be used to actually attack the monster. It's blatantly NOT the same thing. 3) AltairHawk needs to stop talking as if he knows what he's on about. [/quote] 1) Like a bandit uses 1 dagger and 1 "blade". 2) First, I already knew that. And second: wow, so their damage is more unstable and the numbers go from big to small and then to big again with every hit! Whether it just raises your attack or makes a weaker attack itself, it serves the exact same function, and both are "blades". If I recall correctly, Khanjar actually meant blade or something in some language. 3) You need to stop talking until you can make some sort of sense and offer half-convincing arguments. Your third point actually MAKES NO SENSE! I need to stop talking as if I know what I am on about? What? My point is that Blades: 1) Go on the shield slot. 2) Look like Khanjars. 3) Have low Weapon Attack, nothing like an actual weapon for that level. 4) Serve a similar function as Khanjars, which is slightly increasing damage output. 5) Are basically like fancy shields with animations every 2nd attack and a few buffs for them. Therefore, Blades are simply fancier Khanjars. Now give me an actually good argument against that instead of some badly strung together words that I am failing to comprehend.

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groundonrage 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AltairHawk : 1) Like a bandit uses 1 dagger and 1 "blade". 2) First, I already knew that. And second: wow, so their damage is more unstable and the numbers go from big to small and then to big again with every hit! Whether it just raises your attack or makes a weaker attack itself, it serves the exact same function, and both are "blades". If I recall correctly, Khanjar actually meant blade or something in some language. 3) You need to stop talking until you can make some sort of sense and offer half-convincing arguments. Your third point actually MAKES NO SENSE! I need to stop talking as if I know what I am on about? What? My point is that Blades: 1) Go on the shield slot. 2) Look like Khanjars. 3) Have low Weapon Attack, nothing like an actual weapon for that level. 4) Serve a similar function as Khanjars, which is slightly increasing damage output. 5) Are basically like fancy shields with animations every 2nd attack and a few buffs for them. Therefore, Blades are simply fancier Khanjars. Now give me an actually good argument against that instead of some badly strung together words that I am failing to comprehend. [/quote] source ElliFores* . com Level 70 Blade Weapon Attack: +39 REQ DEX: 110 REQ LUK: 190 HP: +280 Faster (3) Slots: 7 Level 120 Blade Weapon Attack: +53 REQ DEX: 160 REQ LUK: 290 Faster (3) Slots: 7 Quite a big effing difference compared to the CB's str shield.

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s0ulReaper13 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You are wrong on "severing similar functions as Khanjars". Dual Bladers have 2 attk ranges for a reason. The blade has its own attk. Khanjars as stated above is like another wg. Heres a scenario: a dual blader doing triple stab. dmg 250 125 250(rough estimate) the 125 comes from the blade. CBs/Shads don't have that. Khanjars add dagger attk range. Blades add Blade attk range.

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AltairHawk + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Perhaps the numbers are larger, but their damage formula is lower to make up for it, so it really doesn't matter exactly how much attack one gives. I am not saying they are the exact same, merely that they are super similar and that Blades aren't really another weapon but a really good shield. @SoulReaper: Jeez Louise, I KNOW! I have done my research, and have seen Spadow's Blog. But hitting 250 125 or just 375 with one attack isn't very different at all. Blades are too weak to really be considered a weapon, imo, so they are just nice Shields, like nicely scrolled Maple Shields or Khanjars. That is all.

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