Can i replace D.U. with Barrel?

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thread starter Folkedahl May 14 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I've heard barrel is used for bossing some ways, and i don't really like single-target training, so would it be really horrible to get only 11 D.U. and Max Barrel?

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Takeback3r 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 1CrazyCleric : Fix'd it for yah!~ [/quote] Name one downside to oak barrel.

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akaFirst 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

When i was BFing i sometime use D.U too pin BF without corking it. so its helpful for me [:

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GunDelHel 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 1CrazyCleric : Fix'd it for yah!~ [/quote] DU is just as useful at level 11 as it is at level 20. It still stuns, can be used to pin BF, and even when maxed it doesn't out power your other skills. Oak Barrel, on the other hand, is really only useful when maxed. Otherwise it's just for looks. Anyone got that video of the Bucc using Oak Barrel at Zak to AFK?

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1CrazyCleric 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@Takeback3r It breaks. I prefer DU over Barrel at earlier levels. Of course I have both maxed and I have no clue why this thread was even made as anyone who has researched the class would realize that you max both anyways. @GunDelHel DU is more useful at a higher SP level because it simply does more damage which can be a motivational leveling factor for some people at earlier levels. And DU is weaker then flash fist at level 11 so it wouldn't even be used at that point except for stun, and backspin does that job better damage wise, number of monsters stunned, and mobility. I still use DU at level 146 anyways .__. Only time I need oak is if I'm hunting Bigfoots and it's just for insurance against OHKO's when he sits on a portal. Barrel has some obvious upsides (Barrel luring at HT/PB, being able to afk for SHORT periods of time at a boss like Zakum as you pointed out, and some insurance against OHKO's while looking for Bigfoots) but I feel that DU is more useful earlier on. Some proof is look at the examples of how I find barrel useful. All of those activities are at least 120+ to be doing them with any sort of regularity. The only use that I see to barrel over DU early on is the get to tornado corridor by using it to get past Crimson Guardians. And I feel that using it to get past 1 map, where it is quite easy to get there now with the prominence of bishops/priests being able to door you there, family teleports, and the fact that (IMO) Lower Ascent is a better choice training wise and is easier to get to, does not validate leaving an attacking skill that is STILL used in 4th job at a lower level. But that's my 2 cents. ./end rant :X

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darkanjl + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Aw, the Scania crew's all here. <3 Honestly, despite Oak Barrel's utility, I refuse to use it because... Well... Barrels seem unattractive to me. For whatever reason, I'm reminded of Bibarel from Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. And after running into Bibarel after Bibarel while EV Training a Larvitar... Your sanity becomes a little unhinged. Despite my opinion of the skill's aesthetics, it really is a useful skill, and it's highly recommended to max Oak Barrel over Shockwave, but I wouldn't recommend not maxing Double Uppercut. To this end, my opinion is to do the following (I really wish Basil allowed for complex, bulleted formatting): 2nd Job: + MAX all skills except MP Recovery. Because at this point, your MP pots should be cheap enough to grant you the luxury of "not needin' no stinkin' MP Recover". 3rd Job: + MAX all skills except Shockwave. Because it sucks. Seriously. Put one point in it for the looks, because it looks nice, but I wouldn't recommend wasting time with it. + Apply remaining 3rd Job Skill Points to MP Recovery

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darkomega 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

oak barrel is the most beautiful thing i have ever used <3

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ko680 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] azimuth457 : I am confused as to why people seem to think Barrel is so great...but okay go for it. [/quote] You can actually pick up drops / meso, unlike darksight. Its very useful in mpq for dropping the liquids o.o

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Takeback3r 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 1CrazyCleric : It breaks. I prefer DU over Barrel at earlier levels. [/quote] AT EARLIER LEVELS, obviously. In general though, barrel is more useful than DU.

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MmmmmHmm 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] GunDelHel : Do it. You won't regret it. [/quote] hey tertin where'd you get that mask? :o

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Agurazium 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well since you're only looking towards bossing then don't max mp recovery and max both. I don't know why you would want to be a barrel mule, it seems humiliating.

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1CrazyCleric 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Takeback3r : AT EARLIER LEVELS, obviously. In general though, barrel is more useful than DU. [/quote] Yeah. But isn't this discussion pointless since they're both maxed in the end? AND if DU is better earlier and barrel is better later, wouldn't it make sense to max DU first for the early levels and then get barrel later when you actually need it? Just saying >_>;;

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holygorilla 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

long story short, you max both in the end, but du first? amirite?

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putiiii 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well if you're not going to max shockwave, you might as well put the points into barrel at the end of 3rd job. Can someone tell me why it's so important too.

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1CrazyCleric 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Good job at the above 2 for copying what everyone else said >_>;;

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Agurazium 05/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

just dont get barrel over du

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