Maximum Defense Is Possible

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thread starter klkl12345 May 10 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hat - Scarlion Hat: 160 Def Shoes - Violet Snowshoes: 50 Def Pendant - Horntail Pendant: (Egged) 250 Def Shield - Stone Shield: 45 Def Cape - Reverse/Timeless Moonlight: 55 Def Top - Any Level 11 Shirt: 11 Def Bottom - Stirgeman Power Pants MK II: 75 Def Glove - Mechanical Glove: 20 Def Earrings - Any earring that adds 5 Def Remaining equips are not available in Defense, or are too minor to count. Total: 671 Defense. Assuming you have the rare Ridley's Scroll for Defense that adds 100 Def for 10 minutes, you have 771 Def on clean items. (I looted 4 Ridley scrolls on the floor a long time ago and I still have em ) Hat - Hammer, Pure 10/30/50% - 45 Def Shoe - There are no Shoe for Def Scrolls Pendant - Using Chaos scrolls on a HT Pend is not worth it Shield - Hammer, Pure 10/30/50% - 45 Def Cape - Hammer, Pure 10/30/50% - 35 Def Top - Hammer, Pure 10/30/50% - 45 Def Bottom - Hammer, Pure 10/30/50% - 45 Def Glove - There are no Glove for Def Scrolls Earrings - Hammer, Pure Earrings for Def 30% - 35 Def Total: 250 Defense Final Total: 671+ 250 = 921 Defense If you do not have a Ridley Defense Scroll, Pain Relievers add 30 Def as a weaker option. 921 + 30 = 951 Extra Def: Accessory: If you have one that adds 1 Def, good for you. Weapon: If you have a Weapon like Frying Pan, it adds defense. Scroll one with 10/30/50%s for 1 Def each, and Hammer for an additional 9 Def. (+15 Def Total)

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NovaFatalis + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] klkl12345 : Hat - Scarlion Hat: 160 Def Shoes - Violet Snowshoes: 50 Def Pendant - Horntail Pendant: (Egged) 250 Def Shield - Stone Shield: 45 Def Cape - Reverse/Timeless Moonlight: 55 Def Top - Any Level 11 Shirt: 11 Def Bottom - Stirgeman Power Pants MK II: 75 Def Glove - Mechanical Glove: 20 Def Earrings - Any earring that adds 5 Def [/quote] Cecelia earrings give 10 def. Just thought I'd throw that in there :D Edit: You should also include Witch's Deep Purple Belt, for that's +60 defense.

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OfficerSnail 05/10/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

iv got 632

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zoulen + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

My old maple glory sword had 9 def. Also no stirgeman pants?

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GunDelHel + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Violet Snowshoes can have up to 60 Def clean. Mine do. Also, I've had a pair of Cecelia Earrings with 12 def before...I blew them up with an earring def 30%... You also forgot Belts. The ideal being a 60+ Witch Belt. Which would put you to 999 with the other equips you listed.

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icy89firaga 05/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Also Zach, couldn't you use the new Pharaoh Belts too? A perfectly 30%'ed Cecelia hammered would give up to 33 Defense and 7 Accuracy or up to 47 defense perfectly Chaos'ed.

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GunDelHel 05/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] icy89firaga : Also Zach, couldn't you use the new Pharaoh Belts too? A perfectly 30%'ed Cecelia hammered would give up to 33 Defense and 7 Accuracy or up to 47 defense perfectly Chaos'ed. [/quote] Yeah, but there are plenty of 0 Atk 60+ Def Witch Belts out there that most people just give away, if you can give them an SoK.

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gman375 05/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For those curious about the M.Def: Hat - Scarlion Hat: 135 M.Def (120+15 INT) Shoes - Violet Snowshoes: 20 M.Def Pendant - Horntail Pendant: (Egged) 270 M.Def (248+ 22 INT, approx. value) Shield - Stone Shield: 35 M.Def Cape - Timeless Moonlight: 60 M.Def Top - Any Level 11 Shirt: 0 M.Def (Mine has 12 =P) Bottom - Stirgeman Power Pants MK II: 30 M.Def Glove - Mechanical Glove: 20 M.Def Earrings - Cecelia's Earrings: 60 M.Def Belt - Witch's Deep Purple Belt: 60 M.Def And just for the sake of it... Medal: Saint Exorcist Medal - 25 W.Def, 28 M.Def (25 + 3 INT) Total: 718 M.Def I understand that there are better earrings out there that give more M.Def, however currently to my knowledge the Cecilia's Earrings are the only earrings to give W.Def (as well as Moonstar earrings, but the stats are lower). As for the hat, using a zhelm would add 30 more M.Def, so the total M.Def would be 748 instead but a drop of 5 W.Def (Scarlions have 155 W.Def according to Hidden-Street).

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klkl12345 05/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dang. My friend who used to play Pizza Slice said Max Def was 2k o.o

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Alyssaur 05/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Fancy. Now! Does someone want to calculate the maximum avoid-ability possible from scrolling the common equip-able items for me? High Avoid. items I remember offhand: Icarus (+15 Avoid.) Sauna (+10 Avoid.) Yellow Strap Shoes (+5 Avoid.) Maple Shield (+1 Avoid.) Black Tube (+10 Avoid.) Then there are the LUK items like the Targar Hat and.. urm.. some of the earrings, as well as LUK Scrolls and Shoe Scrolls for DEX which add avoid-ability too. I ask because I'm going with a high avoid. build with my Noblesse and I want to drool over all the equipment that I'll never be able to afford. Participants win a cookie and my appreciation.

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LittleTLK + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Alyssaur : Fancy. Now! Does someone want to calculate the maximum avoid-ability possible from scrolling the common equip-able items for me? High Avoid. items I remember offhand: Icarus (+15 Avoid.) Sauna (+10 Avoid.) Yellow Strap Shoes (+5 Avoid.) Maple Shield (+1 Avoid.) Black Tube (+10 Avoid.) Then there are the LUK items like the Targar Hat and.. urm.. some of the earrings, as well as LUK Scrolls and Shoe Scrolls for DEX which add avoid-ability too. I ask because I'm going with a high avoid. build with my Noblesse and I want to drool over all the equipment that I'll never be able to afford. Participants win a cookie and my appreciation. [/quote] I calculated this without chaosing equips, because of the tremendous unlikelyhood of it being successful. 1) Perfect Sauna Luk Robe: 40 avoid 2) Perfect Targar Luk Helm: 21.25 avoid 3) HTP: 36.5 avoid if egged 4) Earrings: Glittering Altair Earrings- 9 if scrolled for luk 5) Weapon: Black Tube scrolled with accuracy (gives 3 dex each)-- 16.75 avoid 6) Shoes: Yellow Snow Shoes scrolled with shoe dex scrolls- 7.5 7) cape: icarus cape 1 scrolled with luk: 25.5 8) gloves: BWG scrolled with 9 50% dex scrolls (not 10% or 30%) - 24.75 9) shield: Maple Shield scrolled for luk - 19 avoid 10) belt: Black Belt scrolled with 30% Luk scrolls 26.25 avoid 11) face: rat mouth scrolled for avoid with 30%s - 22.5 avoid 12) eye: broken glasses scrolled for acc with 30% - 2 (if you got the nice dragon scrolls, nice, but it's hard to find the scrolls now. Also, I don't include chaos scrolls with these calculations) 13) medal: quest specialist - 11.5 14) ring 1: wedding ring with 3 slots and hammerable scrolled with 30% luk accessory scrolls: -7.5 15) ring 2 - Lilin's ring 3 - 2.25 avoid 16) rings 3 and 4 - circles of ancient thought- 2 Total: 274.25 avoid from equips. If you chaos some things I guess you can get a few more but I hate chaos scrolls, and don't realistically expect them to work that way nearly as much as having perfect hammered 10%d equips. EDIT: Thank you, Tetrin for the corrections.

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GunDelHel + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] LittleTLK : 5) Weapon: Black Tube scrolled with accuracy (gives 3 dex each)-- 23.5 avoid [/quote] OBJECTION! The Black Tube only gives 10 Avoid. Dex only gives 0.25 Avoid per point. There is no way that 21 nor 27 points of Dex can give 13.5 avoid!

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LittleTLK + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] GunDelHel : OBJECTION! The Black Tube only gives 10 Avoid. Dex only gives 0.25 Avoid per point. There is no way that 21 nor 27 points of Dex can give 13.5 avoid! [/quote] Really? if so I completely screwed up all of that. And I spent a while on that. I thought it was 0.5 avoid for 1 dex. mmk, I'll change it, thanks for the correction. BTW: how much avoid does 1 luk give?

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GunDelHel + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] LittleTLK : Really? if so I completely screwed up all of that. And I spent a while on that. I thought it was 0.5 avoid for 1 dex. mmk, I'll change it, thanks for the correction. BTW: how much avoid does 1 luk give? [/quote] Quick list. Base Accuracy: Warriors/Magicians/Beginners = DEX * 0.8 + LUK * 0.5 Brawlers = DEX * 0.9 + LUK * 0.3 Bowmen/Thieves/Pirates/Gunslingers = DEX * 0.6 + LUK * 0.3 Base Avoid: Warriors/Magicians/Bowmen/Thieves/Beginners = DEX * 0.25 + LUK * 0.5 Pirates = DEX * 0.25 + LUK * 0.5 Brawlers = DEX * 1.5 + LUK * 0.5 Gunslingers = DEX * 0.125 + LUK * 0.5

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LittleTLK + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

kk, I fixed it~

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