50 base dex is just fine

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thread starter hockey088 May 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hey everyone I am a funded level 65 aran with 50 base dex with very good equips, and I do very good damage. For anyone that thinks that dexless is the only way to go i just wanted to tell you, that by simply wearing str equips instead of dex, you can obtain the same damage as a dexless aran. I use only str equips and my damage range is similiar to any dexless that i know. This isnt a showoff thread, im just saying that dexless can be overrated sometimes.

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tadaitsdavid 05/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] OnyxApple : Ya... wait.... how are the dexless guys going to hit monsters if they have no accuracy.... You can swing your 1000 str fists around all you want, but you're not gonna hit anything.... -_- [/quote] I have 4 dex, and 198 acc. Enough to hit almost everything?

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OnyxApple + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] homeworksucks : how much acc do you seriously think you need to hit most end game monsters like skeles and oblivion guardians. [/quote] Ummm.... more than 4.... Above : You are using accuracy equips. Those acc scrolls take the slots that you could be using on str scrolls, meaning that you are just telling me that you don't need dex to be pro, you need acc, and to get that accuracy, you need scrolls, and if you use those scrolls, you are not using str scrolls, meaning you just quoted me to tell me how you are lucky with scrolling.

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hockey088 05/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well my damage range is 876-2312 at lvl 65 and i have 50 base dex. Im just saying that although this isnt the best possible, i have good funding so my damage is still as good as any other aran my level. My equips are zhelm 14 str top clean bottom -_- 103/13 maple karstan 12 att litas warrior gloves 50 mp leaf earrings 6 dex 3 str warrior shoes 2/10 str pac blue belt combo king medal dragons glasses 30.30

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tadaitsdavid 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] OnyxApple : Ummm.... more than 4.... Above : You are using accuracy equips. Those acc scrolls take the slots that you could be using on str scrolls, meaning that you are just telling me that you don't need dex to be pro, you need acc, and to get that accuracy, you need scrolls, and if you use those scrolls, you are not using str scrolls, meaning you just quoted me to tell me how you are lucky with scrolling. [/quote] First off, I don't quite know what you're saying. But if you think I'm using dex items instead of str items, you are wrong. I got 198 from: 66 from Zhelm (24 dex, 16 luk, 39 acc) 29 from HTP (22 dex, 22 luk) 4 from Neos Top (5 dex) 23 from Neos Bot (18 dex, 9 acc) 15 from Dark grieve shoes (6 dex, 10 acc) 7 from Black belt (5 dex, 5 luk) 11 from Receivers (10 dex, 6 luk) 9 from Combo King Medal (3 dex, 3 luk, 5 acc) 6 from base dex and luk (4 dex, 4 luk) 20 from Mastery 8 from Spectrum goggles (3 dex, 6 acc) Nowhere did I substitute dex scrolling instead of str scrolling. Zhelm, dex bot, and shoes cannot be scrolled for str, unless you want to chaos it. I still wear a str pac, and most of my equips have a decent amount of strength in it. I also have just enough dex to use an arc. So tell me, how is your argument valid again?

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Auralogica 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

70 base dex here, I might reset to 60, but if I swap for Arcglaive I won't. I'm satisfied with my Aran.

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taleko 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What the majority of people forget is that it does cost money to pull off a successful dexless, most people would be better off in the short and long term to use those funds to invest in pure wep att items (i.e. stronger weapons, better gloves ect) you have people spending hundreds of millions to stay dexless when they are funded with ess than a bill, @2 above, want to write up the cost of those items compared to the cost of your weapon?

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doodorz 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

40 base dex. I don't think dexless is over rated, it's just the people that have dexless in their name make it annoying.

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tadaitsdavid 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] taleko : What the majority of people forget is that it does cost money to pull off a successful dexless, most people would be better off in the short and long term to use those funds to invest in pure wep att items (i.e. stronger weapons, better gloves ect) you have people spending hundreds of millions to stay dexless when they are funded with ess than a bill, @2 above, want to write up the cost of those items compared to the cost of your weapon? [/quote] Sorry, but they never made funding to be an issue in this thread. I understand that it is difficult to achieve being dexless, having acc, and not sacrificing scrolling for dex instead of str all at once. But they're arguing that this is impossible. I'm just trying to prove that it's not. Clearly, you can see that the guy with about 50 base is well funded as well, so I don't see the point in sacrificing those 40 dex, because the sacrifice is unnecessary.

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Xylit 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hockey088 : Hey everyone I am a funded level 65 aran with 50 base dex with very good equips, and I do very good damage. For anyone that thinks that dexless is the only way to go i just wanted to tell you, that by simply wearing str equips instead of dex, you can obtain the same damage as a dexless aran. I use only str equips and my damage range is similiar to any dexless that i know. This isnt a showoff thread, im just saying that dexless can be overrated sometimes. [/quote] Hey, i got gear for my aran that is str-specific, i got an int zhelm instead of an accuracy scrolled due to hp-wash, and i'll be dexless, no dexgear besides the gear that can't be scrolled for strength. What's your point? It's easy to be dexless with str-gear. EASY.

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Torin 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This thread can be summarized like this: Hi. I'm a regular dex Aran. Because I wasted 46 ability points into dexterity, I am on a mission to prove to the Basil community that my mistake was not in vain. I know deep down that I should restart my Aran, but I'm too lazy, so I'm just going to continue on with 50 dex. Rather than accept that my AP build is inferior to many other people who successfully play dexless Arans with little or no funding at all, I am going to try to convince everyone that somehow my build actually is better, so I can feel better about the mistake I know I made. Even though I make arguments such as "you scroll for dex, I scroll for strength, that makes us even" and know they are invalid and not applicable at all to the discussion, I'm actually right. I am right because I have to be, otherwise I would be admitting that I have built my character incorrectly, and would have to live with that fact. Instead, I would rather delude myself into thinking that I did the right thing, because what choice do I really have? I can't afford 46 AP reset scrolls.

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tadaitsdavid 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Torin : This thread can be summarized like this: Hi. I'm a regular dex Aran. Because I wasted 46 ability points into dexterity, I am on a mission to prove to the Basil community that my mistake was not in vain. I know deep down that I should restart my Aran, but I'm too lazy, so I'm just going to continue on with 50 dex. Rather than accept that my AP build is inferior to many other people who successfully play dexless Arans with little or no funding at all, I am going to try to convince everyone that somehow my build actually is better, so I can feel better about the mistake I know I made. Even though I make arguments such as "you scroll for dex, I scroll for strength, that makes us even" and know they are invalid and not applicable at all to the discussion, I'm actually right. I am right because I have to be, otherwise I would be admitting that I have built my character incorrectly, and would have to live with that fact. Instead, I would rather delude myself into thinking that I did the right thing, because what choice do I really have? I can't afford 46 AP reset scrolls. [/quote] You're my hero.

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4kyosuke4 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

My hero has 100 dex. Just throwing that out there.

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raymond10123 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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PieceOfDmg 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hockey088 : well my damage range is 876-2312 at lvl 65 and i have 50 base dex. Im just saying that although this isnt the best possible, i have good funding so my damage is still as good as any other aran my level. My equips are zhelm 14 str top clean bottom -_- 103/13 maple karstan 12 att litas warrior gloves 50 mp leaf earrings 6 dex 3 str warrior shoes 2/10 str pac blue belt combo king medal dragons glasses 30.30 [/quote] Nice equip, alot better than mine =) Im dexless thought, and have 300 more on my damage range =) Nothing against the old high secondary stat though (150dex hermit ftw)

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Auralogica + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Who really cares what build is better? It is simply a game. So many people go crazy when they hear 'dexless.' Personal preferences, people. When I began playing Aran I had less than 5 mil. I didn't expect to end up with 400 mil worth of stuff and mesos today. You can't fund a dexless anything with 5 mil. So now I can afford some STR equips and I like how rare they are. And I'm also picky about the equips I wear. Zhelms and Scarlion helms are fugly. WGs are too plain. I use a 7 str 10 atk dark emperor. I might shave off 10 dex later if I get enough NX for an invisible hat when I go arcglaive. But other than that, I rather like my 70 dex. It helped greatly and actually allowed me to hit stuff from level 50 onward, when I didn't have enough for a zhelm and wasn't high enough to equip Karstan.

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