anybody know why in the middle east throwing a

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thread starter tyrant2900 Apr 30 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

shoe at somebody is disrespectful? i really want to know where that came from.

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NapalmDe4th 04/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't know where you come from, but throwing anything at anyone, let alone a shoe, is considered disrespectful.

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Fade2BlacK 04/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Shoes are considered dirty in the Arabic World. Matthew Cassel of The Electronic Intifada in the context of the "Bush shoeing" incident has expressed the opinion that the Western media overplayed the phenomenon as being "Arab" in particular.[5] Historically, the notion of shoes as a symbol of impurity is widespread throughout the Middle East and is not Arab or Islamic in particular. Exodus 3:5 has: "And he [God talking to Moses] said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy ground." When a Jewish priest, a Kohen, offers the Priestly Blessing in the Synagogue he removes his shoes prior to ritually washing his hands. Similarly, Muslims universally take off their shoes before entering a Mosque. The term for "shoe" or "sandal", na`al is glossed by Gesenius: "casting down a shoe on any country was a symbol of taking possession". In Acts 13:51, Paul and Barnabas "shook off the dust of their feet against them [viz. against the Jews of Antioch]" in an act of condemnation before continuing their journey. In Hinduism, taking off one's shoes is important as a mark of respect, especially when going to a place of worship. Throwing shoes is also a sign of disrespect in Indian culture, particularly if the shoe is made from leather.[6] A 16th century Ethiopian bishop acting as an ambassador from Dawit II of Ethiopia, is reported to have told John III of Portugal that "We are not permitted to enter the church, except barefooted." Adam Clarke even suggested that the custom of worshipping the Deity barefooted was general among all nations of antiquity.[7] In contrast, Al-Ghazali (11th century) questioned the custom of taking off shoes before prayer as an undue emphasis on "outer cleanliness": The early Muslims concentrated their entire attention and energies on the purification of their hearts and were lenient in their outward cleanliness... it is better to say prayer with shoes than without shoes because when the Prophet took off his shoes with uncleanliness at the advent of Gabriel, the companions also took off their shoes. He told them: Why have you taken off your shoes? One of them named Nakhyi said: Perhaps someone in need may pass by and take these shoes. ... These things have now changed.[8] Showing somebody the sole of a shoe is also considered an insult: Thus, as former U.S. presidential candidate Bill Richardson inadvertently exposed his sole during an interview with Saddam Hussein, with the faux pas instigated, Saddam temporarily left the room.[9]

xultrashock 04/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

That doesn't seem strange at all. Throwing things at people is already disrespectful. Shoes are usually stinky and have been on the ground getting dirt and other crap on them. Combine the two and your basically throwing stinky dirt and other crap at people.

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Folkedahl 04/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, i would think throwing a shoe at someone in the U.s. is pretty disrespectful too..

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tyrant2900 04/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Fade2BlacK : Shoes are considered dirty in the Arabic World. Matthew Cassel of The Electronic Intifada in the context of the "Bush shoeing" incident has expressed the opinion that the Western media overplayed the phenomenon as being "Arab" in particular.[5] Historically, the notion of shoes as a symbol of impurity is widespread throughout the Middle East and is not Arab or Islamic in particular. Exodus 3:5 has: "And he [God talking to Moses] said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy ground." When a Jewish priest, a Kohen, offers the Priestly Blessing in the Synagogue he removes his shoes prior to ritually washing his hands. Similarly, Muslims universally take off their shoes before entering a Mosque. The term for "shoe" or "sandal", na`al is glossed by Gesenius: "casting down a shoe on any country was a symbol of taking possession". In Acts 13:51, Paul and Barnabas "shook off the dust of their feet against them [viz. against the Jews of Antioch]" in an act of condemnation before continuing their journey. In Hinduism, taking off one's shoes is important as a mark of respect, especially when going to a place of worship. Throwing shoes is also a sign of disrespect in Indian culture, particularly if the shoe is made from leather.[6] A 16th century Ethiopian bishop acting as an ambassador from Dawit II of Ethiopia, is reported to have told John III of Portugal that "We are not permitted to enter the church, except barefooted." Adam Clarke even suggested that the custom of worshipping the Deity barefooted was general among all nations of antiquity.[7] In contrast, Al-Ghazali (11th century) questioned the custom of taking off shoes before prayer as an undue emphasis on "outer cleanliness": The early Muslims concentrated their entire attention and energies on the purification of their hearts and were lenient in their outward cleanliness... it is better to say prayer with shoes than without shoes because when the Prophet took off his shoes with uncleanliness at the advent of Gabriel, the companions also took off their shoes. He told them: Why have you taken off your shoes? One of them named Nakhyi said: Perhaps someone in need may pass by and take these shoes. ... These things have now changed.[8] Showing somebody the sole of a shoe is also considered an insult: Thus, as former U.S. presidential candidate Bill Richardson inadvertently exposed his sole during an interview with Saddam Hussein, with the faux pas instigated, Saddam temporarily left the room.[9] [/quote] ah thanks, sorry for thinking it was a middle eastern thing but the only 3 places where i saw it was austin powers, you dont mess with the zohan, and the guy that threw his shoes at bush.

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