aran (end game dmg)

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thread starter Kjaraiya Apr 28 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok so Im just about done wrapping up which warrior I want to make, just a few more concerns. Are Arans suppose to out damage Heros in some way(end game). Are Arans relied on in boss runs(can they do the necessary damage). They look fun & I'm sure I'd be satisfied with one EDIT: You all have been very helpful thanks so much!

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Blackmanrific 04/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@above, keeping your combo is very easy and according to that sw thread, even if the aran cant constantly keep their combo without SE they still beat them. The only time arans lose is if they constantly get stunned or locked. Even in that situation with SE a hero can't keep up and that thread didnt even take SI into consideration.

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johnsonli010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

the ppl that is using kms as an back up for arans.....get lost kms got far better equips different character setting if u can get a GMS aran to do the same thing then that'll be some proof looking for pros on youtube is way too easy u kidding? i mean how many godly pros are out there? do ppl have to waste $100s in a game to be godly comeon -pshh idiots- besides if u want a aran to do perfect in a party u need HB,SI,Se,dispell, and that leave for one NL only if u think about it inorder for ONE aran to do good in a boss run ,1 BM,1 bishop, 1 DrK, 1 bucc,1 any job is required, this limits the selection and will take time to find ppl and u say this party can out dmg a 3 NL, 1BM, 1 Hero, and a bishop team?

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Dacarlover 04/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Blackmanrific : @above, keeping your combo is very easy and according to that sw thread, even if the aran cant constantly keep their combo without SE they still beat them. The only time arans lose is if they constantly get stunned or locked. Even in that situation with SE a hero can't keep up and that thread didnt even take SI into consideration. [/quote] Indeed.

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[quote] Jamiedurrant : Im just making an Aran for the Lv70 ring then deleting =]. Aran ain't for me you just use the same attack over and over =[. But some people enjoy them so i don't complain. [/quote] Hmm, I wonder what NLs do (not flaming)

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Legendary777 04/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] johnsonli010 : the ppl that is using kms as an back up for arans.....get lost kms got far better equips different character setting if u can get a GMS aran to do the same thing then that'll be some proof looking for pros on youtube is way too easy u kidding? i mean how many godly pros are out there? do ppl have to waste $100s in a game to be godly comeon -pshh idiots- besides if u want a aran to do perfect in a party u need HB,SI,Se,dispell, and that leave for one NL only if u think about it inorder for ONE aran to do good in a boss run ,1 BM,1 bishop, 1 DrK, 1 bucc,1 any job is required, this limits the selection and will take time to find ppl and u say this party can out dmg a 3 NL, 1BM, 1 Hero, and a bishop team? [/quote] My foot. We have Onyx Apples, godly scrolled weapons, etc. I'm pretty sure that's pretty good right there.

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StimuIate + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

In the end, I would have to say that it all comes down to potential. Arans benefit greatly from SI and SE, they can washed to keep up with HP, they train much faster than Heroes from 1-200, and have the ice element, which comes out useful at Obliv4 when ToT updates are made. Heroes, at best, can only do 100k or so per brandish hit. Arans, however, can have the highest DPM in the game. There are ways to maintain combo at bosses. For example, people who say that Arans are only good for Zak arms and suck for bodies are oblivious to the fact that Arans can sit on Zakum's body and have body pressure attack Zakum while they are stunned, effectively maintaining combo. Of course, this cannot be done without autopot and intense washing for high HP. Like I said, it's all about the potential. I have seen Arans with 31 attk BWG's, perfect arcglaives, and washed to 12k clean HP at only level 14x who deal 350k+ damage everytime they do an Overswing+Final blow just ONCE. If he had put the same money in a hero, he would not be nearly as powerful, because the limit on a hero's potential is quite low. In the end, you can pull insane feats, such as ride around on a 200% mount, have godly 19k clean washed HP, and deal 17.5 DPM in a realworld situation, seen in the following crazy-ass video of this lvl 200 KMS aran, who hits so hard and consistently that pap can't even attack/stun/sleep, WITHOUT an apple (because KMS doesn't have them) and kills it in 1 minute 24 seconds. No other job can do this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z38pf3ovsBk (posted on youtube a couple days ago by mazefind) For you, it all depends on how much funding you have. If you got the balls and the money, an infinitely-funded aran is MUCH more powerful than a infinitely-funded hero, hands-down. With less funding, I'd say they are about equal, depending on your interests. The fast, cheap leveling really is wonderful, though. Combo drain allows me to use 0 pots while I train with my HB mule, so instead of losing money, I gain money when I train.

My Characters: Stimuiaran - 191 Mardia Aran in Hope

iJoonz 04/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kjaraiya : o dang, it seems arans are at a little disadvantage, i was hoping arans would be top class, but i read a nexon conference, they wanted arans to be harding in the beginning and stronger in the end, cuz to me when u think about it, those criticals later on add up, and up, and up....anyone else? cuz idk [/quote] Lol nexon failed badly because Arans are almost the exact opposite of that

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metaghost3 04/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Against bosses heroes win hands down. On multiple enemies aran would win. Although the heroes will get even stronger when the adventurer rings come out giving them crit dmg

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StimuIate 04/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] johnsonli010 : the ppl that is using kms as an back up for arans.....get lost kms got far better equips different character setting if u can get a GMS aran to do the same thing then that'll be some proof looking for pros on youtube is way too easy u kidding? i mean how many godly pros are out there? do ppl have to waste $100s in a game to be godly comeon -pshh idiots- besides if u want a aran to do perfect in a party u need HB,SI,Se,dispell, and that leave for one NL only if u think about it inorder for ONE aran to do good in a boss run ,1 BM,1 bishop, 1 DrK, 1 bucc,1 any job is required, this limits the selection and will take time to find ppl and u say this party can out dmg a 3 NL, 1BM, 1 Hero, and a bishop team? [/quote] KMS's equips are not better than GMS's equips. Even if they were, they would NEVER be able to make up for the 70-attack advantage that GMS has due to apples. Please understand that generally speaking, GMS players are much stronger than KMS players. When purple snowboards come out, SI won't even be needed, because Arans will hit max speed.

My Characters: Stimuiaran - 191 Mardia Aran in Hope

DragonBandit 04/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Arans can get that crit ring to imo its aloud to be traded once between characters on the same account =]

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xBN2Xclusive 04/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Adventurer rings can be traded between accounts just like Lilins ring.

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Dacarlover 04/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] StimuIate : In the end, I would have to say that it all comes down to potential. Arans benefit greatly from SI and SE, they can washed to keep up with HP, they train much faster than Heroes from 1-200, and have the ice element, which comes out useful at Obliv4 when ToT updates are made. Heroes, at best, can only do 100k or so per brandish hit. Arans, however, can have the highest DPM in the game. There are ways to maintain combo at bosses. For example, people who say that Arans are only good for Zak arms and suck for bodies are oblivious to the fact that Arans can sit on Zakum's body and have body pressure attack Zakum while they are stunned, effectively maintaining combo. Of course, this cannot be done without autopot and intense washing for high HP. Like I said, it's all about the potential. I have seen Arans with 31 attk BWG's, perfect arcglaives, and washed to 12k clean HP at only level 14x who deal 350k+ damage everytime they do an Overswing+Final blow just ONCE. If he had put the same money in a hero, he would not be nearly as powerful, because the limit on a hero's potential is quite low. In the end, you can pull insane feats, such as ride around on a 200% mount, have godly 19k clean washed HP, and deal 17.5 DPM in a realworld situation, seen in the following crazy-ass video of this lvl 200 KMS aran, who hits so hard and consistently that pap can't even attack/stun/sleep, WITHOUT an apple (because KMS doesn't have them) and kills it in 1 minute 24 seconds. No other job can do this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z38pf3ovsBk (posted on youtube a couple days ago by mazefind) For you, it all depends on how much funding you have. If you got the balls and the money, an infinitely-funded aran is MUCH more powerful than a infinitely-funded hero, hands-down. With less funding, I'd say they are about equal, depending on your interests. The fast, cheap leveling really is wonderful, though. Combo drain allows me to use 0 pots while I train with my HB mule, so instead of losing money, I gain money when I train. [/quote] How correct in every aspect.

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Kjaraiya 05/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

StimuIate Loved your post makes so much sense, that potential at higher damage gives them the advantage!

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TheBearClaws 05/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Take it from me, arans are better

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Kjaraiya 05/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lol wow, thanks, these ppl, act like it horrible a newer class came out better than theres, thats the whole point, to incorporate all into one new better character, no flammin, just sayn

My Characters: Kjaraiya - 129 KradiaGMS Bishop