Snatch/ST Vs Energy Orb Vs Shockwave

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thread starter duskreaper Apr 26 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm maxing one of these skills next on my bucc and I need some input on what would be best. My current pros and cons are: Snatch/ST pros: Faster than the other skills and stuns, can pull monsters. Cons: Takes the most points to max. Available the least amount of time of all the skills. Energy Orb Pros: Available more than both skills, spammable. Cons: Damage is spread out so mobs will die unevenly. Could be annoying or slow me down. Shockwave Pros: High damage, available twice as much as snatch, requires the least SP (Already has 12 in it) Cons: Slowest of all skills.

lncognito 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

From what I've heard, Shockwave has been rendered useless, but Energy Orb is used later on. So... Energy Orb?

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sayv 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well at this point, it is up to you and your playing style. Energy orb looks fun, so I would vote for that.

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xXKronosXx 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I would also suggest Energy Orb. Why use Shockwave when you have Dragon Strike maxed?

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kelvinzero 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

to the above 3 you are all incorrect, Snatch is the best viable option Thxs to timeleap you get to super transformation faster. Plus snatch has rediculous range.

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duskreaper 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

These skills would be alternating with Dragon strike for optimal mobbing damage. It's mostly between Snatch and Energy Orb, shockwave is pretty much a filler since it's also a 6 mob hitting skill. I'm wondering, on what mob sizes does energy orb beat dragon strike (Spamming and before/after balance patch)? What mob sizes would Energy orb/DS beat Snatch/DS (Before and after balance patch)? This info would help a lot if anyone knew. Orb and snatch both look pretty fun so it's a tough choice.

Takeback3r 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Orb is the most useless. Alternating it with dragon strike is weaker than just spamming dragon strike. The only use for it is for replacement when bossing (barrage -> orb) but that is weaker than barrage -> DS after skill updates. Snatch is potentially the most useful. At level 1 you already have a skill that can save you from taking damage as well as improving travel between mobs. When you get it to a higher level, it can be used for stringing enemies along a platform while dealing large amounts of damage at the same time. It can also be used in unison with DS for maximum mob DPS. Shockwave is pretty self explanatory, but if you feel using it when snatch is unavailable is useful, go ahead and max it after snatch. The other very good option is maple warrior. Mine's only 6 and it's a huge boost, which is an understatement.

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uberwalrus 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

the stun from snatch is very useful for both stunning, so u can hit crits and bringing mobs to you definetly snatch

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duskreaper 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hm, I heard that spamming orb was better damage than DS, I guess that information is old. Looks like I'm going with Snatch then. I already have MW supplied when I'm training so I can put that off until after demo probably. Might throw in shockwave after demo and MW. Thanks for the info everyone

ttrt112333 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I suppose that snatch would be good for critting, it does stun right? o.0

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myfisturmom 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

As Takeback3r said, I'd rather get some points into MW than in any of those three.

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DeepRuin 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I personally would go for Super Transform/Snatch. But get MW to level 9 first (It gives a good boost, only takes 3 levels, and you don't need to buy any skill books!)

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duskreaper 04/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

As I already said, I already have MW when I train, so there's no immediate reason for me to add points to it myself.

FullCircle 04/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Snatch seems the most beneficial to have. Shockwave is utterly useless

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gummby8 04/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Everyone says that orb gets weaker as it hits more mobs, true but I have been using orb for a while now and truth be told, I never have noticed it.

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