Pros and Cons of a NL

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thread starter HenriJone Apr 23 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Like my other thread, but with a NL. Please list all the pros and cons you can think of. Thanks :D

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Scomomage 04/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

There are too many pros to list but some cons are: HP washing. To be a good NL you need over 7.5k hp, which is a lot of mesos converted to nx. One of the most expensive classes. Probably need 1b or so to be considered average.

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My Characters: Looterlord - 124 KradiaGMS Night Lord

DarkZero255 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Looterlord : 1. Nightlords share lowest hp with bowmasters/marksman (obviously not including mages due to mg) Avoid =/= hp 2. Nightlordrs are not spammy. Go to the nightlord page and count the number of skills, then come back. 3. Name ONE HERO you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam brandish. Name ONE DARK KNIGHT you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam fury/crusher. Name ONE BOWMASTER that you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam hurricane. You get my point. Everyone spams moves at bosses. They take long for a reason. [/quote] ^ the lord speaks truth. i have to agree. i just made mine because i like flash jump. lol

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Looterlord 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] EarUrPie : Pros- NLs have decent HP, for a ranged thief class with over 50% avoidability you gotta admit 3k+ HP is decent, I've seen NLs go into cwkpq and Zak and NEVER get hit. 3k HP is fine, and way over decent NLs are spammy, don't even lie. 10-120 = Spam L7, 120-200 = Spam TT Enough said NLs are lazy (not in the bad way) but they were meant that way. Name ONE NL you know that goes into Anego, Zak, cwk or any of the big bosses and does something OTHER than spam TT. I had a race with my NL friend to hit 150, I was 145 and she was 140. I spent endless hrs grinding at Skeles and RoR5 while all she had to do was occasionally look for BF and Anego, then get invited to zak, pap, and BG. NLs are easy to lv. You're only 124, when you lv up more you'll understand. Cons- Name one GOOD NL you know that hasn't spent over 200m. no wait...I'll be generous. 500m Spamming TT over and over doesn't get boring? Kudos to you. [/quote] 1. Nightlords share lowest hp with bowmasters/marksman (obviously not including mages due to mg) Avoid =/= hp 2. Nightlordrs are not spammy. Go to the assassin-nightlord page and count the number of active skills, then come back. 3. Name ONE HERO you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam brandish. Name ONE DARK KNIGHT you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam fury/crusher. Name ONE BOWMASTER that you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam hurricane. You get my point. Everyone spams moves at bosses. They take long for a reason. 4. Har de har har. You specifically said they are the easiest 4th job class to level. Nightlords are moderately slow levelers. Bossing does not completely replace training. Not everyone can find an anego every 2 seconds. And besides, there are plenty of bosses besides anego. You can do zak. You can do cwk. You can do bigfoot. Bossing is not a valid reason for nightlords' supposed "fast training". Almost every other class, with the exception of a handful of ranged ones and a few close ranged ones, level slower. Look at the basil % per hour threads and you'll see. 5. Lets see. Looterlord. Orange. More and more. I started out with 200k. I believe he started out with similar funding as well. How bout I give you a counter-challenge. Name one level 150+ (yes, any class) that hasn't spent over 200 mil. Rofl. Just because a nightlord takes money doesn't mean no other classes take money at all. So... Why are VoltesV and varsityhero heroes? Is it because heroes are cheap? 6. It's a fricking rpg. Refer back to #2 if you need help. If you don't like flash jumping around, storming monsters, tting and venoming, avengering, and whatnot, then that's your opinion. I could just as easily say that your class is boring. Kudos to you for giving a crap for what other people like and dislike.

My Characters: Looterlord - 124 KradiaGMS Night Lord

TimmyDaBest 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

pros: high dmg with SE ( as a result good for bossing) wanted for bossing highest mobility/avoid cons: low dmg when soloing repetitive low hp require a lot of funding (WELL over maxed mesos, if you want to be a good NL)

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Msjazz 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lvl 30~70 is a pain in the arse but sp is secksy

thisisbranny 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Msjazz : lvl 30~70 is a pain in the arse but sp is secksy [/quote] How is it? My hermit was really quick til 74, in which I got bored -_-, just cpq then wr. Easy!

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orangeking11 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] EarUrPie : NLs are lazy (not in the bad way) but they were meant that way. Name ONE NL you know that goes into Anego, Zak, cwk or any of the big bosses and does something OTHER than spam TT. [/quote] I like to Drain Zak arms and Scar for squads. But then again, I'm cheepz. xD

My Characters: Orange111 - 140 Broa Night Lord

00NoobKing00 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xVolcomStone : ...It's the hair, isn't it? [/quote] Ouch... You were mistaken for a lady, lol. Im pretty sure it's the hair though. But the skin is much more manlier. Ive never seen a female with grey skin yet o_o OT: They have flash jump so they can go ZOOM! flash jump and haste = ZOOOOOOOOOOOM!

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MoonYeti + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

NL was fun.... i stop at 135, gave away my 70atk claw, my high crit with cider was 14.2k and 29k with apple and apple 48k with SE i feel weak! Pros: high damage and #1 wanted for bossing cons: low HP and VERY COSTLY seriously i'm 35 base dex and with all my dex fundings i still chouldnt get around a 75+atk claw

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xVolcomStone 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 00NoobKing00 : Ouch... You were mistaken for a lady, lol. Im pretty sure it's the hair though. But the skin is much more manlier. Ive never seen a female with grey skin yet o_o OT: They have flash jump so they can go ZOOM! flash jump and haste = ZOOOOOOOOOOOM! [/quote] Well... the hair stays. :D

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ninjastar2k 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pros - GODLY avoid, and Shadow Shifter + Already high Avoid + Ranged Attacker = virtually untouchable. xD Cons - EXPENSIVE! Also, you have to have good control I believe.

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Plax 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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xalex094 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Looterlord : 1. Nightlords share lowest hp with bowmasters/marksman (obviously not including mages due to mg) Avoid =/= hp 2. Nightlordrs are not spammy. Go to the assassin-nightlord page and count the number of active skills, then come back. 3. Name ONE HERO you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam brandish. Name ONE DARK KNIGHT you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam fury/crusher. Name ONE BOWMASTER that you know that goes to any big boss and doesn't spam hurricane. You get my point. Everyone spams moves at bosses. They take long for a reason. 4. Har de har har. You specifically said they are the easiest 4th job class to level. Nightlords are moderately slow levelers. Bossing does not completely replace training. Not everyone can find an anego every 2 seconds. And besides, there are plenty of bosses besides anego. You can do zak. You can do cwk. You can do bigfoot. Bossing is not a valid reason for nightlords' supposed "fast training". Almost every other class, with the exception of a handful of ranged ones and a few close ranged ones, level slower. Look at the basil % per hour threads and you'll see. 5. Lets see. Looterlord. Orange. More and more. I started out with 200k. I believe he started out with similar funding as well. How bout I give you a counter-challenge. Name one level 150+ (yes, any class) that hasn't spent over 200 mil. Rofl. Just because a nightlord takes money doesn't mean no other classes take money at all. So... Why are VoltesV and varsityhero heroes? Is it because heroes are cheap? 6. It's a fricking rpg. Refer back to #2 if you need help. If you don't like flash jumping around, storming monsters, tting and venoming, avengering, and whatnot, then that's your opinion. I could just as easily say that your class is boring. Kudos to you for giving a crap for what other people like and dislike. [/quote] Where's the damn fame button on this site! >:o [quote] kayspace1 : I agree with this young lady. :D [/quote] Win of the day. :o

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xVolcomStone 04/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xalex094 : Win of the day. :o [/quote] It occurred yesterday thank-you very much.

My Characters: BuzzBladez - 136 Windia Night Lord