ST sword/ dragon carabella and shield

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thread starter curtis Apr 20 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I currently own a 142 att stonetooth sword hammered twice, but I'm thinking of going 1 handed instead, since 2 handed heroes look "ugly" imo. If I get a 142 att carabella as well, what att shield do I need so that my damage with my carabella equals (or goes higher) to the damage of the stonetooth? and, which attacks faster? stonetooth or carabella (this is for my 145 hero, sorry didn't add this yet) thanks ;)

My Characters: flamexhermit - 144 Khaini Night Lord

kb24fan96 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

14att shieldis good although 10 att culdwork as well ithink carabella attacks faster idk

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WhiteCrow 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

first i dont think 2h heros look ugly... and u might wanna read this... this could help u... From what I see and what I hear from people, you should not consider using a 1 hand weapon until 4th job. This is because with the 4th job Hero skill, Brandish, the range is the same for both a 1 hand weapon and a 2 hand weapon. After you reach 4th job and you have a decent level of Brandish, you have to do the calculations. Because a godly scrolled 2 hand weapon can still outperform a badly scrolled 1 hand weapon and ATT shield. But for simplicity, consider the following assumptions: 1) Both weapons have the same attack speed. 2) Both types of swords have the same consistency. 3) The maximum damage of a 1 hand weapon is [(STR *4.0 + DEX)/100] * Weapon ATT. 4) The maximum damage of a 2 hand weapon is [(STR *4.6 + DEX)/100] * Weapon ATT. Since you are low DEX, STR will be much greater than DEX, so we don't really need to consider DEX at all. Now equate the two equations. [(STR *4.0)/100] * ATT(1 hand) = [(STR *4.6)/100] * ATT(2 hand) And so, ATT(1 hand) = 1.15*ATT(2 hand) From these calculations, we can see that if the weapon ATT of a 1 hand sword + shield is 1.15 or more times that of a 2 hand sword, it will outperform a 2 hand sword. Otherwise, you should stick with a 2 hand sword. Of course, I did not consider the speed of the weapon, but you will have a hero soon, so what you do is buy some cheap 1 hand sword and 2 hand sword, doesn't matter what level it is, and test it yourself. Spam Brandish for 2 minutes with each type of weapon and just calculate the ratio between the two. Take (# of swings 2 hand)/(# of swings 1 hand) and multiply by 1.15, that'll give you an approximation as to how much att is need for a 1 hand sword + shield to match the power of a 2 hand sword.

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Hollalude 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If it looks ugly, theres always a way -> NX weapon items too cover it.

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NotHimAgain + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Gimme your ST D; Mine is 105 and I'm going for 120 as my final. I can only dream of a monster like yours. LOL forgot the helpful part ~_~ I've heard that you need 12 more attack on a 1h to equal a 2h sword.

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curtis 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

oh okay, thanks xD anything else I need to know? O_O WhiteCrow told me that with my ST, I don't need to switch to 1handed, since that ST is good enough. anyone else? o-o

My Characters: flamexhermit - 144 Khaini Night Lord

eswarrr 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] curtis : oh okay, thanks xD anything else I need to know? O_O WhiteCrow told me that with my ST, I don't need to switch to 1handed, since that ST is good enough. anyone else? o-o [/quote] I agree with whitecrow, a 142 att ST could be easily your end game weapon.

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djp2313 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

With an apple theres no shield out there to compete with the ST You'd have to get a much better 1h sword Even w/o an apple you're looking at a ~30 attk shield or so if you have decent attack equips besides the ST

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curtis 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] djp2313 : With an apple theres no shield out there to compete with the ST You'd have to get a much better 1h sword Even w/o an apple you're looking at a ~30 attk shield or so if you have decent attack equips besides the ST [/quote] so pretty much, stick to my ST? and not waste cash on funding an att shield?

My Characters: flamexhermit - 144 Khaini Night Lord

eswarrr + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] curtis : so pretty much, stick to my ST? and not waste cash on funding an att shield? [/quote] Yes and Yes.... Besides 1h+att shield looks crap imo.

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djp2313 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] curtis : so pretty much, stick to my ST? and not waste cash on funding an att shield? [/quote] That's what I would suggest. Grab an nx cover if you really don't like the look.

My Characters: darknightr - 177 Bera Dark Knight

curtis 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

alright thanks guys xD could you p/c on a 122 att 10 str u/h carabella? in NX and cash, since I want to sell it out for a little pot money

My Characters: flamexhermit - 144 Khaini Night Lord

adware111 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

did u happen to buy this ST from mts :P my guild leader scrolled a rly godly one and sold for 100k nx

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junnypwnz 04/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

240m ishh

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curtis + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] adware111 : did u happen to buy this ST from mts :P my guild leader scrolled a rly godly one and sold for 100k nx [/quote] oh no I didnt, I bought it from FM a few months ago for 950m @junnybish that's Broa's price right? could you get me a Khaini price? O_O

My Characters: flamexhermit - 144 Khaini Night Lord