Marauder/ Buccaneer Survival?

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thread starter HoiiowHope Apr 08 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I've been watching the youtube videos/ threads on killing BF, bossing, etc about Marauders but I'm quite lost still on how to survive. Marauder HP is lower then a warrior's yet we can still BF somehow? I understand that we use invincibility frames but I have no idea when/which skill is used in which consecutive order. I don't see a marauder can last 30mins solely on using corkscrew for invincibility and corkscrew drives into the target/ causing body touch damage? Is it also plausible to blood build a marauder (add HP into points instead of STR/DEX) due to 1 ATT= 7STR/8STR and not having enough NX to HP wash? Edit: If you know a guide/ video to show a in depth tutorial on how to use invincibility frames, please post below Edit2: Problem solved. Thanks to anyone who contributed positive advice in helping me. Shows how basil is divided into two groups and at least I gained some advice and some from negative but informative posts.

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Bountyan 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You just don't get hit by Bigfoot. You use a combination of walking back, Corkscrew, and Barrage. I forget the details. I'm not an expert at Bigfoot.

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HoiiowHope 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Bountyan : You just don't get hit by Bigfoot. You use a combination of walking back, Corkscrew, and Barrage. I forget the details. I'm not an expert at Bigfoot. [/quote] 30 minutes of not being hit solely concentrating on invincibility sounds difficult. I tried Dojo-ing for practise and couldn't hardly solo Papa Pixie. I admit my character control is amateur but I wanted some confirmation whether its true marauders solely rely on invincibility frames.

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Celspell 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Corkscrew doesn't give touch damage for a second or two 'hence invicibility frames' and I believe the combo for dragon dancing is: Barrage Dragon Strike Corkscrew Double Uppercut and repeat You turn around after either Corkscrew or Double Uppercut Correct me if i'm wrong

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jzb10 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Corkscrew doesnt make you get hurt.. If you are an absolute noob and wanna take your time then cork and Flash fist with booster. Booster right after cork if your out and just skip the flash fist. This will take a LONG time to solo though. BUT its almost impossible to fail. If you do, then quit ur bucc. Not the right class for you

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Zim5 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Videos can give you an ideas, but practice is best. Just have fun with it. Go when your like 0% and dont mind dying. For 3rd job have at lest decent drain.

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Agurazium + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm sorry but don't wanna sound rude but... You're a marauder and you didn't know that through out your times as a brawler/marauder you don't know that csb gives iframes? Unless you've leeched then I understand why you don't know how your skills work. Sorry if I sounded like an "arse" just now. Anywho, yes csb rushes you foward, but you're forgetting, it gives invincibility, nexon wouldn't give us a skill that pushes you into a monster so you can take damage. Csb then barrage, move back and repeat. If you have demo then you can spam it in place, you'll be safe because of the kb in the skill which won't let bf get close to you. Their survival depends on iframes. Unless they have hb then they can do w/e they want. Edit: for the video, find a video of angeloflove, she solos almost every boss without almost never taking damage. YouTube name is nishinoproductions.

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HoiiowHope + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Zim5 : Videos can give you an ideas, but practice is best. Just have fun with it. Go when your like 0% and dont mind dying. For 3rd job have at lest decent drain. [/quote] Yeah I'm having fun/ had fun grinding to my current level. It was just dying against Papa Pixie at Dojo made me a bit worried on survivability. I usually just spam corkscrew/ somersault kick without worrying about HP until I have enough to drain and just spam that. Does 10 levels of STR make that much a difference beyond of 120? I think I might go with HP. Edit: @ above. Everyone says corkscrew, etc but I practised for around a hour trying to corkscrew/ combination on Dojo Bosses/ Papa pixie mainly and got frustrated. I had/ have no clue how to know when to corkscrew+ when to use other combinations. And no I grinded to my current level, no leeching. Though I plan to.

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SomeGuyXXX 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] HoiiowHope : Yeah I'm having fun/ had fun grinding to my current level. It was just dying against Papa Pixie at Dojo made me a bit worried on survivability. I usually just spam corkscrew/ somersault kick without worrying about HP until I have enough to drain and just spam that. Does 10 levels of STR make that much a difference beyond of 120? I think I might go with HP. Edit: @ above. Everyone says corkscrew, etc but I practised for around a hour trying to corkscrew/ combination on Dojo Bosses/ Papa pixie mainly and got frustrated. I had/ have no clue how to know when to corkscrew+ when to use other combinations. And no I grinded to my current level, no leeching. Though I plan to. [/quote] If you honestly don't know by level 92 of pure grinding as you say...why are you a Brawler again?

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Takeback3r + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that...money can't buy everything. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! [quote] Celspell : I believe the combo for dragon dancing is: Dragon Strike Corkscrew Backspin blow and repeat [/quote] Fixed.

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jzb10 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

wow i figured out invisibility frames now and im lvl 43 almost 44. Even though ive been playing for 5-6+ years... I fail no 3rd jobber. But still i pretty much got down invisibility frames. I only need 1/4 hotdogs compared to waffles. Most of the time waffles heal all of the damage (if any) that hurt me when i use them for MP

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Agurazium + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ahh. Sorry but papa pixie is a pain for all of us I guess. Still I apologize for my tone on the last post. I have a pretty alright control when papa is pinned. He seems harder to kill for me than others but I can still manage. For me to solo papa here's what I do. I use csb on papa till he's in a corner. Right before he attacks I csb once more for the 2 sec of iframes. Then I jump back and, look in his direction in mid air and du (dbl uppercut) before I hit the ground in quick succession. If my timing is right from when I attacked before he did, I would throw in a couple flash fists and csb him again before he attacks. Assuming you took the energy build, then your bar will fill In no time then you can spam drain until your energy charge is up. But to be on the safe side and avoid (higher % of avoiding) darkness/seal I use csb and du without charging csb or using the extra flash fists at the end so I can remain invincible and hopefully his spell doesn't connect because I'm invincible. It takes a few tries but I finally got it down using this combination. Edit: I'll try making a vid on soloing papa pixie as a lower leveled marauder for fun I guess. I've made training videos and haven't updates like 10 levels (I don't really take advantage of iframes when training as you cam see). I'll show you what I do and how I use iframes. Note I don't have the best iframe control in the world, just decent enough to keep me alive.

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HoiiowHope 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SomeGuyXXX : If you honestly don't know by level 92 of pure grinding as you say...why are you a Brawler again? [/quote] Windraiders and below do not require grinding with invincibility frames. Creativity of combinations/ mainly somersault kick and corkscrew is all I used grinding. @ above. Thanks for the feedback. Is the only way to know when to use Corkscrew is to memorise every monster/ boss's attack animation? If yes, oh god. Everyone makes it sound so simplistic. I'm sure I'm missing something.

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RBick 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Corkscrew and barrage leave you pretty much completely invulnerable. I just solo'd a few griffeys on my bucc and managed to only get hit once or twice tops on each (more because of lag due to the connection problems the east coast is having). My bucc has nice damage but due to my level BF would take me quite a while to kill so I haven't bothered to try. Alls I can say is practice makes perfect. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken but by 16x+ I think buccs have enough HP to tank a BF hit. I'm not sure how many levels you'd need to dump into HP to go early, though.

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Agurazium 04/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] HoiiowHope : Windraiders and below do not require grinding with invincibility frames. Creativity of combinations/ mainly somersault kick and corkscrew is all I used grinding. @ above. Thanks for the feedback. Is the only way to know when to use Corkscrew is to memorise every monster/ boss's attack animation? If yes, oh god. Everyone makes it sound so simplistic. I'm sure I'm missing something. [/quote] haha not at all. I take advantage of boss attack animations so I can deal extra damage and fill that bar faster for me to sit and heal away or just use can and blast. You don't need to know their attack patterns because remember, you have 2 seconds of invincibility from csb, you can just start with a flash fist, then 2 flashfists so you get the hang of iframes then move onto du and other crazy things. Taking advantage of attack patterns can let you kill the monster in shorter time.

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