Best Warrior DPM?

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thread starter civet Apr 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I was under the assumption that the best warrior DPM is a 1-handed Hero. (Assuming common perfect equips, assides from Weapon / Shield) If someone could list the top 5(3?) classes in terms of DPM, at 90, 120, and 140.

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junnypwnz 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] gtbROX : Wrong...At bf pallies do better by like 2% currently. In mobbing situations (zak arms) though, heros win hands down. The only places a pally doesnt beat a hero 1vs1 is any boss ice weak, ele resistant, or neutral. Otherwise, bosses holy/lightning/fire-weak are a pally's forte. [/quote] Proof?

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gtbROX + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] junnypwnz : Proof? [/quote] Just Calculate blast+fire charge+ele weakness and the proof there is pretty obvious... You also have to keep in mind that brandish and blast are the same speed ratio, it's just that brandish is split into 2 hits. Even then blast still beats it. When you end up calculating it all it's 990% vs 988% (blast/fire charge vs brandish). Blast= 5.5x1.5x1.2=9.9 Brandish=2.6x1.9x2=9.8 Even then Blast is still slightly faster.

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DanishDude1 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] junnypwnz : Proof? [/quote] 990% vs 988% -_- EDIT: Oops, guy above already proved himself.

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MindSpaz 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Mobbing, probably Hero's, and I think almost everyone will agree with me on that. 1 v 1 damage, I'm gonna say it's either DrK (only if zerked.) or a Pali. This is of course if everyone has perfect equips. Mobbing : Hero Aran (I think) and the rest tie for third in my opinion. 1 v 1 : Pali / DrK (if zerked) Hero Aran DW?

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zgtaf 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MindSpaz : Mobbing, probably Hero's, and I think almost everyone will agree with me on that. 1 v 1 damage, I'm gonna say it's either DrK (only if zerked.) or a Pali. This is of course if everyone has perfect equips. Mobbing : Hero Aran (I think) and the rest tie for third in my opinion. 1 v 1 : Pali / DrK (if zerked) Hero Aran DW? [/quote] We're talking DPM, which is damage over time, not damage on a single hit. Assuming equal perfect equips, the hero is, as of right now, the best in 1vs1.

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MindSpaz + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] zgtaf : We're talking DPM, which is damage over time, not damage on a single hit. Assuming equal perfect equips, the hero is, as of right now, the best in 1vs1. [/quote] Well DPM wise, I still think Palis are #1 in 1v1. Heros are probably tie for first or close second. DrKs 3rd, Arans 4th and DWs 5th in my opinion.

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DanishDude1 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MindSpaz : Well DPM wise, I still think Palis are #1 in 1v1. Heros are probably tie for first or close second. DrKs 3rd, Arans 4th and DWs 5th in my opinion. [/quote] Well, it's not really something you can 'think', either you know it or you don't; in this case you don't know. On most 1v1 targets, including many elementally weak ones Hero's generally manage to beat Paladin's. After the "balance patch" it'll pretty much be the other way around, if it is implemented and not nerfed.

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WkRequiem 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pallies arent the best on neautral atm. I beleive once the balance patch comes pallies will be slightly better then heroes. Still nothing too substantial. They are so close atm does it really matter.

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Thelilfight 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@You got a good point there it doesnt matter at all whats the best it matters what you enjoy the most i love my sader i dont care if a pala can ks me at Bf or not i still love my Sader. @ MindSpaz Also there is no way the DW does the worst dpm out of the warriors i think it does the best at level 120 xD

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MindSpaz 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Thelilfight : @You got a good point there it doesnt matter at all whats the best it matters what you enjoy the most i love my sader i dont care if a pala can ks me at Bf or not i still love my Sader. @ MindSpaz Also there is no way the DW does the worst dpm out of the warriors i think it does the best at level 120 xD [/quote] Well technically, they are the best warriors at level 120, because they get an extra AP point every level up. But I was talking about like if everyone is level 200, and since DW's can't hit level 200, they are kinda singled out as the worst DPM.

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Thelilfight 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thats why i said there the best at 120 LOL you just backed up my point thanks MindSpaz

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infferrno + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Corsairs have the best DPM. Oh oops... Warriors only? I'll leave that for the fact-masters.

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gtbROX + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] DanishDude1 : Well, it's not really something you can 'think', either you know it or you don't; in this case you don't know. On most 1v1 targets, including many elementally weak ones Hero's generally manage to beat Paladin's. After the "balance patch" it'll pretty much be the other way around, if it is implemented and not nerfed. [/quote] Well, there was a hero guy that calculated it out an a thread from 2 weeks ago. Basically since the strength of charges goes holy>lightning>fire>ice, pallies will do better 1v1 on any targets holy/lightning/fire weak. Ice charge just happens to be our weakest charge so on ice weak bosses heros will do better. On neutral targets heros will do better since pallies won't get the 1.5x boost from ele weakeness. And when you have mobs, heros win hands down. This is why heros are so desirable for cwk, brandish will hit all 3 of the bosses and pin them while the others are killing off each boss individually.

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Strom 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Neutral: Heroes Ele Weak: Paladin <_<

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techboy 04/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] USFRanger : 90: Probably DK 120: Still DK 140: Hero on Multi-Targets, but when balance patch comes out, Paladins on Single-Targets such as Bigfoot. [/quote] pali is already better on big foot cuz bigfoot is weak against fire. also about this being sorta the same thing is all the weird stuff goin on in the molecular level, thin about it this does not definately come even close to the complexity of that

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