Critique - Why Evans playing style is boring

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thread starter dreamskype Apr 01 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

First of all, the flaw in the story makes this class pretty funny (clones running around). Evan is suppose to be a farmer right? And there is only suppose to be one dragon right? Not a whole army of them running around "in YOUR OWN house". Apparently your "mother and father" has tons of kids and they all make up this EVAN race now that all inherit dragons in their dreams. Even if the original story was that "the evans" were a class of legendary animal tamers, and tamed MANY dragons. Does this now translate that all the "lil farmers" will become beastmasters now? IN all logicality, for storyline purposes there is only suppose to be 1 evan, but regardless, because maple is an mmo, many believe it should be waived. Which brings me to the next point. Where is the customization of our dragons? Can we not change the color of them? Hell, make it a cash shop item, make some money off of us, cuz I was about to GOUGE my EYES OUT looking at so many dragons that looked like they got DUPED. At least with other classes whos visual appearance relies solely on clothing, people will change them. You can't change your pet though, whether it be pets color, pets name, pets armor? Pets weapon? There is a plethora of possibilities that nexon could have made to make this class way more interesting. No doubt the dragon pet aspect was the most anticipated part of Evans, but so much more could have been done to incorporate this dragon into a new playing style. Sadly, the pet dragon has turned into nothing more than visual embellishment for another "Slighty more buffed mage class". There is no aspect of caring for your pet, protecting your pet, or maintaining your pet. The player / pet relation that is such heavily shown through dialogue is not carried through in gameplay. Other possibilities include improved dragon AI allowing automated advanced attacks and skills and the ability to go melee or magic. Up till now now, most all pets are ranged. At the very least, better animations of the dragon could have been emphasized to enforce the story line. Evans, being a farmer lead us to believe that they have limited combat a abilities. They SOLELY rely on there dragon and should be portrayed as such. For example, when getting hit, the dragon could shield evan from damage with its wings, or a barrier at high lvl, etc. All in all, the evans are nothing more than another mage class with new visual animations. At least with Arans, hitting multiple enemeis with melee (go dynasty warriors :P), was a new concept that has never been seen for a "normal" attack.

Skyenets 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Just like Evans, these rants are totally not unique :c.

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niksterg + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I agree with your point about there being a huge potential for caring for the pet, and even for customizing your dragon. But I'm gonna have to disagree with the "plot discontinuity". Yes, it appears on screen as though there are hundreds of Evans, but the way the plot really works is that you ARE the only one. The other Evans technically don't exist. Honestly, overall I think the MapleStory fan base could have come up with a better plot and playstyle idea than Nexon did. However, we've got what we've got, so you may as well enjoy it (or ignore it if you don't like mages). Hopefully Nexon will see the criticism posted on various forums, and they'll step it up a notch when they release the next class. @the person below me: If you look at it from a completely neutral perspective, Evans are basically mages with more than 4 job advancements and slightly more power. Yeah, so they attack with a dragon - that's just animation-wise. Other than that, what's the difference? Aran is more unique than Evan.

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Travis 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Skyenets : Just like Evans, these rants are totally not unique :c. [/quote] In my opinion Evans are one of the most unique classes in the game now.

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Hiro9921 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thats the way Nexon works.

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cyaltr 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@travis yeah me too :P i mean like which job lets u controll sum awesome animal that doesnt exist?

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SasukeIIV + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Travis : In my opinion Evans are one of the most unique classes in the game now. [/quote] Pfft, looks like a Blaze Wizard with some pixels above your head. The first skill is exactly the same as Magic Claw, and Fire Circle, are you kidding? There's already 2 fire-based magicians...

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DarkFocus 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I agree with niksterg. However I have a few thoughts of my own. Sure, theres no aspects of caring or protecting or maintaining Mir, but I don't think anyone wants to start a boss fight and next thing you know. "OH NO...I can't fight anymore! My dragon is tired" Sure it would be interesting, but it would also be very very situational. When your dragon needs caring for/maintaining and all. I do agree on some of your other points and I think they could be used to make Evan way more fun/interesting. Anyway, nice job. I liked your review.

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Chillionaire 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Who the hell cares? As long as I have fun because that's what I came here for. I didn't come play Maple so I can write a whole review on one little aspect of the game. Hell, if I wanted to review every aspect of MapleStory, it would be a whole book.

Takeback3r 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Your critique lacks understanding of the fundamental point of MMOs. Your rant is exactly the same topic that people could have ranted about with arans, except it's for evans. For christ sake, the story is supposed to be taken in a first person point of view. Disregard the fact that other people are having their own adventure. Also, the most anticipated part of evan wasn't the dragon. It was the glasses. They're the only reason most people are making evans in the first place because evans as an end game class sucks ass. [quote] Travis : In my opinion Evans are one of the most unique classes in the game now. [/quote] Nothing more unique than a mage that acts like a mage but has a dragon that looks like every other dragon casting attacks.

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markedmask 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

First of all, this game is supposed to be about your story. It just so happens that your story interacts with everyone elses. that is why there is more than 1 evan. and more than 1 aran, for the same reason. Come on, its called suspension of disbelief. as for dragon customization, just wait for it. evans are still new. development takes time. be patient. as for more in depth dragon care and dragon interaction, it could be nice. But this isnt that type of game. it isnt a graphic intensive game, not particularly showy. Your just asking for more than maple really can provide.

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SeaNoob 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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dreamskype 04/01/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Travis : In my opinion Evans are one of the most unique classes in the game now. [/quote] And your support? Why do you think so? [quote] DarkFocus : I agree with niksterg. However I have a few thoughts of my own. Sure, theres no aspects of caring or protecting or maintaining Mir, but I don't think anyone wants to start a boss fight and next thing you know. "OH NO...I can't fight anymore! My dragon is tired" Sure it would be interesting, but it would also be very very situational. When your dragon needs caring for/maintaining and all. I do agree on some of your other points and I think they could be used to make Evan way more fun/interesting. Anyway, nice job. I liked your review. [/quote] Thanks, regarding the bossing aspect. I am sure nexon can come up with a way to still boss while maintaining your pet--kinda creating more of a team combo with your pet instead of just being another spam one button at boss class. I never did state exactly in what way to include caring and maintaining of MIR, but off the top of my head it could be something as simple (as many maplers play maple for simplicity) as cast buffs on your dragon perhaps? To aiding him in combat some way. The idea of evan acting more of a supporting/buff class for the dragon would interesting

niksterg + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Takeback3r : Your critique lacks understanding of the fundamental point of MMOs. Your rant is exactly the same topic that people could have ranted about with arans, except it's for evans. For christ sake, the story is supposed to be taken in a first person point of view. Disregard the fact that other people are having their own adventure. Also, the most anticipated part of evan wasn't the dragon. It was the glasses. They're the only reason most people are making evans in the first place because evans as an end game class sucks ass. [/quote] Not completely true. Most of the people in my buddy list made Evans because they wanted to try a new class; that's why I made one. And of the people I talked to yesterday, most of them also made an Evan for that reason. @DarkFocus I hadn't thought of the battle aspect. That's a good point. Perhaps feeding your dragon could be done by attacking? Give a low level attack where the dragon actually takes a bite out of the monster. Depending on how much damage the attack does, the dragon's hunger could be quelled a certain amount.

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dreamskype + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Takeback3r : Your critique lacks understanding of the fundamental point of MMOs. Your rant is exactly the same topic that people could have ranted about with arans, except it's for evans. For christ sake, the story is supposed to be taken in a first person point of view. Disregard the fact that other people are having their own adventure. Also, the most anticipated part of evan wasn't the dragon. It was the glasses. They're the only reason most people are making evans in the first place because evans as an end game class sucks ass. Nothing more unique than a mage that acts like a mage but has a dragon that looks like every other dragon casting attacks. [/quote] And just how exactly does my critique lack understanding of the "FUNDAMENTAL" point of mmos? Take any class currently in maple and its pretty obvious you are apart of a group of "classes", and you take on a first person perspective as one of the "warriors in perion" or a "thief in kerning". Evans don't make sense and I am simply voicing that the story could have been improved to fit the mmo environment. I never said i hate it, I am not "complaining" about it, nor is this a "rant". As stated, I simply critiqued the evan classed based on my opinion. And who says the most anticipated part of evans wasnt the dragon? Who says they are not? As "niksterg" posted most of his buddy wanted to play a new class. Same with my buddies, they could care less about the glasses. So your bet is as good as mine