Help choosing my finaly sword?

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thread starter GermPuncher Mar 28 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hey! I've really been wondering about this (idk why though lol). What should my final 2handed sword be? I was thinking of going Stonetooth, but idk... MAYBE a Devil's Sunrise? I don't really have the funding or money to make a Dragon Claymore or buy a Dragon Claymore/Reverse Nibleheim. I COULD make a Reverse Nibleheim? Not sure, which one (Reverse Nibleheim and Dragon Claymore) is easier to make? Thanks. ^^ (Yes I did post this on the Hero section, but to no avail... so I'm trying here.) Edit: I meant final*

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kb24fan96 03/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

stonetooth ftw cuz its fast u need 120 dex though if u can afford a nibleheim, go for it. Or w8 couple more lvls until u can afford nibleheim if there is no way u can afford the reverse, go for the stonetooth

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JihnFei 03/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kb24fan96 : if u can afford a nibleheim, go for it. Or w8 couple more lvls until u can afford nibleheim [/quote] Wait there is a higher level version of a nibelheim?

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enoch129 03/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] JihnFei : Wait there is a higher level version of a nibelheim? [/quote] He means: Either get one at hero, if you can't buy one, try racking up some money after lvling a bit.

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yuncius 03/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

NRW requires less dex than the ST but has the same speed so it's also an option for the less well-funded.

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runecaster 03/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Don't worry about your final sword too much. If you're shooting for an ST, and at level 100 don't have the one you want. don't worry about it. It's called a "final weapon" for a reason. You have unlimited time to achieve it. Keep that in mind. If you're shooting for a godly Nibleheim, don't be afraid to wait until level 150 to get it. However long it takes for you to get the funds is however long it takes. The one thing you shouldn't do is feel rushed and to shove whatever funds you have into a weapon you won't be satisfied in. I've had friends maker reverse weapons the moment they hit 120 and use 60%s, only to end up regretting that decision 5 levels later.

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GermPuncher 03/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Everyone! Thanks for the advice! And what I will do is get a ST but then go for NibleHeim. And for overall time and money? Should I make or buy the Nibleheim?

My Characters: Springsville - 49 Broa Fighter

kb24fan96 03/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ehh, i see hibleheims go for at least 400mill in scania but i dont know how much it takes to make one. Just focus on getting to 100 first, and use your stonetooth until you can afford to make/buy a nibleheim

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GermPuncher + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dang... xD, I might probably make it. Anyone from Broa know any prices? Edit:Ok! So what I think I'm gonna do: Get to 100 first! :P Then get an ST, then when I get to Hero, maybe get some skills? Then work towards making a Reverse Niebleheim, what monster drops them the most?

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xHolyProphet + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Also a tip for when you convert from Stonetooth to Nibleheim, add 13 attack to the attack on the stonetooth (ex 110+13) and that is the bare minimum to outdamage the Stonetooth using the Nibleheim. Edit: Never mind I was thinking about something else. Sorry

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yamiryu + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xholyprophet : Also a tip for when you convert from Stonetooth to Nibleheim, add 13 attack to the attack on the stonetooth (ex 110+13) and that is the bare minimum to outdamage the Stonetooth using the Nibleheim. [/quote] sir, i loled at that the fact that you took a factor that increases your DPM (not the actual atk value), and stuck a solid number to it is just not possible. I'm wondering why if you didn't know any basic math, did you just post something random to trick the TS. the real way you tell the difference between 2 2h swords of fast(5) and normal(6) would be about 10% (the real figure would be multiplying by 1.1042 if you wana be exact). this means you take your total atk including all other equipments and buffs with the ST, multiply it by 1.1042, (or just 1.1 to be easier), and that's the atk you need out of a nibleheim to match it. edit: I'm sorry, i was looking at the wrong comparison chart; the multiplier for fast (5) to normal (6) is only 1.1042 if you're using final atk, the value for w/o final atk is 1.0976, so the 10% round off is still correct, but i still want to get the facts straight

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GermPuncher 03/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] yamiryu : sir, i loled at that the fact that you took a factor that increases your DPM (not the actual atk value), and stuck a solid number to it is just not possible. I'm wondering why if you didn't know any basic math, did you just post something random to trick the TS. the real way you tell the difference between 2 2h swords of fast(5) and normal(6) would be about 10% (the real figure would be multiplying by 1.1042 if you wana be exact). this means you take your total atk including all other equipments and buffs with the ST, multiply it by 1.1042, (or just 1.1 to be easier), and that's the atk you need out of a nibleheim to match it. [/quote] Uhmm, I did your math... Like it better, lol. But I might actually just at 90, get a NRW, cause I've seen some with 2slots left and 100-110 attack and 6-10 str in Broa for around 50mill... And I can get NX, so I can just scroll it more myself... I just might do that... :D

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yamiryu 03/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] germpuncher : Uhmm, I did your math... Like it better, lol. But I might actually just at 90, get a NRW, cause I've seen some with 2slots left and 100-110 attack and 6-10 str in Broa for around 50mill... And I can get NX, so I can just scroll it more myself... I just might do that... :D [/quote] your weapons will always change depending on your lv. for example, at my lv, we try to strive for 120+ fast (5) swords (my personal next goal is 125+), and when i was lv 90, i was amazed to be holding a 114 NRW. i know some lv 18X paladin in broa right now trying to scroll a perfect ST.

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GermPuncher 03/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Perfect with what scrolls?

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SilverFoxR 03/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

To be entirely honest, a Stonetooth can be just as good of an end-game weapon as a Reverse Nibleheim can... if it's scrolled very well, however, the Nibleheim can ultimately be better. If I were you, I would buy a decently-scrolled Stonetooth when you can. When you do, use it until you can make your own Reverse Nibleheim. This means aquiring 45 Time Pieces (which you can get on your own training in the Temple of Time rather than buying them). By earning the pieces, it will be FAR cheaper than buying them or the sword itself. After that, you will need to obtain whatever else you'll need to make the sword, but also gems to augment it. Still, the total amount should be less than 80m. I personally would reccomend Advanced Power Crystal, Advanced Diamond and either Advanced Garnet for speed or Advanced Amethyst for accuracy (depending on what you think you'd need more by then). Once you've made the Nibleheim, scroll it by using Eurek's skill - do NOT equip it! If the scrolling works to your liking and you feel it's a better weapon overall than the ST, equip it (bonding it to your character) and sell the ST. If it doesn't work to where you'd like it, sell the Nibleheim and work towards making a new one.

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