do i need max pupet

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thread starter bob122334 Mar 23 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ok do i need max pupet or will lvl 9 be fine

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Shining0ne 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yes you do need max puppet. Puppet helps a lot with solo bossing, and the diffrenece between level 9 and max is HUGE

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bob122334 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ok well then what should i not max im not getting thrust

My Characters: rangerbob1 - 40 Scania Hunter

Psychoakuma 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

There are 2 optional skills other then thrust which are inferno and silver hawk. You need atleast 15 silver hawk to use phoneix in 4th job though i suggest maxing inferno and leaving silver hawk at lvl 21.

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magical0n3 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well 6 or so Puppet is fine until you max out your main attacking skills (AR/E and Strafe). But you should eventually max it out. If your not getting thrust, what else are you putting your points into?

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bob122334 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

so i should max everything but thrust and get 21 silver hawk?

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Zenarkenstin 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

151 points total (assuming ranger) -5 for MB pre-req (146) -30 for AR (116) -30 for strafe <3 (86) -21 for hawk (65) 65 points left to distribute accordingly. 20 puppet is suggested, so 45 left. 15 more for MB, leaves 30. Those 30 can go into inferno. *Build Complete* 15 can be left out of MB and put into thrust for +25 speed if you don't want maxed MB.

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wys00 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i suggest MAX PUPPET, if u want to solo Bigfoots or any other bosses, max puppet would be a great help. IMO, 10 thrust is pretty nice, 11-20 seems useless though. my build is max puppet, hawk, ar, strafe, 10 thrust, 16 inferno, 15 or something MB? MB is a great skill, especially when ur soloing pianus and a bomb spawns on u which u didnt see...if you bow wack, chances of u getting oko'ed is like 99%, IF MB activates, it should hit well above 10k w or w/o critical, then ur safe do not MAX puppet asap, more like max it @ 100+ since that's when ull find it useful

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bob122334 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

so i should max strafe,arrow rain,puppet,inferno,mortal blow,and get 21 silver hawk

My Characters: rangerbob1 - 40 Scania Hunter

Zenarkenstin 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] bob122334 : so i should max strafe,arrow rain,puppet,inferno,mortal blow,and get 21 silver hawk [/quote] Yes, unless you don't want inferno or mortal blow.

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jinyoung 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I suggest MAX everything except inferno.

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z00ty 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

heres my build, max puppet,strafe, a bit thrust, max mortal blow, arrow rain 21 hawk. Leave the rest of your SP into inferno for mobbing and balance patch that will come long from now that will allow inferno to burn monsters.

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Shining0ne 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Max inferno is not going to do anything except aggro a few monsters towards you too... if your killing with hurricane, inferno is not going to do you any good, and thrust is useful during high level training cause you want higher mobility to get you towards and away from mobs. Personally i thinkthe 7 seconds of burn isnt worth it because your going to kill all the monsters before the burn actually does anything. Also my level 161 BM friend said he was getting faster exp/hour than a video he saw of a ranger using inferno to burn and then killing

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bob122334 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ok so everything i listed but instead of not maxing silver hawk dont max inferno?

My Characters: rangerbob1 - 40 Scania Hunter

Shining0ne 03/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I just started newties training and i foudn out the hard way that the 4% difference in stun makes a huge difference when you have to train with hawk 24/7. Think of inferno this way, its like venom, you have to -recast everytime a new monster spawns and by the time that the poisen actually does something, the monster will already be dead from your hits unless you are a slow killer. Flame gear and poisen myst are different as you can cast and it affects the whole area for a certain amount of time, so you dont have to recast ever tiem a monster spawns which would slow down training by a lot. Besides, your only level 40, unless your a decently fast leveler, the balance patch will probably be out by the time you have to start woorying about what to master after main attacking skills, and by then a lot of posts about usefulness of inferno will be out and you can just read those

My Characters: NumbersPwn - 105 Scania Ranger