Evans and HP washing?

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thread starter Forgot Mar 22 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, will Evans need to HP wash to fight anything, including Pink Bean? I don't think they do but just makin sure... Off Topic: I'm just wondering, would I be considered a bandwagonner for making an Evan? Here's a little about why I'm making one... I've looked at their skills, and they seem like they'll have slightly better 1v1 but worse 6+ mobbing than AM's... Also, they have good buffs, so they're sort of an offensive support class, perfect for bossing... A bossing mage... Perfect for me. Also, I AM NOT making an Evan related name... Too cliche for me.. So do Evans have to HP wash, and am I hoppin' on the bandwagon?

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ImALowStr 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i dunno they might need of hp washing caues of the nerfed mg correct me if im wrong

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333RaZoR333 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For PB they will need to wash like any (or most?) other classes. For anything else they won't need to wash, they have almost same "total Hp" as regular mages.

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Forgot 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@333RaZoR333 Evans have more total HP than mages, and their spells take less MP to cast, thus they will have more in their bar for MG... They also have many buffs to increase survivability...

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MorbidMagus 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No magician based class needs to wash for anything. Doing so can actually lower your survivability. I can't believe people actually SUGGESTED otherwise.

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333RaZoR333 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Forgot : @333RaZoR333 Evans have more total HP than mages, and their spells take less MP to cast, thus they will have more in their bar for MG... They also have many buffs to increase survivability... [/quote] I'm not sure about they're HP but the MP that magic attacks takes is so low and neglible that it doesnt even matter (other then the ultimates). They do have less MP and nerfed MG so i guess that with the 20% buff (dunno how it's called) they're just like regular mage. They do have 20% buff (pretty sure its 20%) but it works as cleric's Invincible and only reduce magical attacks. Either way they are similar to mages in survivability so they won't need to wash for anything other then PB. Edit:@above the HP:MP ratio isn't 20:80, mages can wash but it's not needed. I.E: after taking a hit from BF i have about 200-250 HP and 3.5-4k MP left, if i were to wash i could survive a bit more.

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wushoo 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lots of ppl HP wash cause of the benefits. Who knows, Evans might want to do it too.

Forgot 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Razor... Read Magus's comment, and normal mages don't HP wash for PB either?

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MorbidMagus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 333RaZoR333 : I'm not sure about they're HP but the MP that magic attacks takes is so low and neglible that it doesnt even matter (other then the ultimates). They do have less MP and nerfed MG so i guess that with the 20% buff (dunno how it's called) they're just like regular mage. They do have 20% buff (pretty sure its 20%) but it works as cleric's Invincible and only reduce magical attacks. Either way they are similar to mages in survivability so they won't need to wash for anything other then PB. [/quote] These unwashed Archmages and Bishops do just fine at surviving Pink Bean, Evans will do fine too. Washing can be done if your ratio is over the 20:80 threshold, which is common for mages, but it is in no way needed, and if you excessively wash, it can have negative effects on an Archmage or Bishops. You have to remember, when washing we lose more mp then any class and gain very little hp in the process, if you have above average mp in late game its acceptable, but can cause problems if you over do it.

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Forgot 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So Magus, an unwashed Evan/Bishop/AM can do 100% well in PB? (i'm not sayin AM's and stuff are good at it, but they'll do fine w/o wash?)

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MorbidMagus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Forgot : So Magus, an unwashed Evan/Bishop/AM can do 100% well in PB? (i'm not sayin AM's and stuff are good at it, but they'll do fine w/o wash?) [/quote] Pack tons of power elixirs and Ginseng's and keep near a drk's HB and dont touch PB, success !

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FrostyGun 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm pretty sure Evans Magic guard was weaker then, Normals magicians? If not correct me.

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Forgot 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Power elixers... wouldn't they be needed even if youwashed? along wiht ginsengs? Obviously HB, and why would you ever touch PB? So don't those go for washed/unwashed?

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MorbidMagus 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] FrostyGun : I'm pretty sure Evans Magic guard was weaker then, Normals magicians? If not correct me. [/quote] 10%, but Evans have Magic Shield and Resistance and slightly higher base hp.

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SquishedTofu 03/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

whats the point of hp washing a non-bosser

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