EV Training is HELL - BasilMarket Forum

thread starter mast3r4zn Mar 18 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Just EV trained my Weavile on Diamond to xfer to Soul Silver... took me like a whole hour >_<. I got like SOOOOO BORED after the 10th Snover (Acuity Lakefront). how are everyone's EV grinding experiences?

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uberkoolio 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't understand how to EV train, I researched on youtube, serebii, and bulbapedia but they're not giving any clear information. Zubats give Speed EVs, so I have to kill 255 of them to get 255 Evs. Does this mean I don't have to fight them anymore? I just need to level to get the EVs applied to my pokemon's individual values?

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cantuciwin 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] HolyMythos : It's actually not that bad. Sure, they're taking it to the extreme, but it's not like they're spending hours upon hours trying to make their character/pokemon/whatever 1% better than they normally are. [/quote] coughmaplestorycough

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XxRocky 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

EV training is useless. First you have to make sure you match the perfect nature. Then you have to burn a ton of berries to drop the EVs that you don't want. EV train and for what? Stats that someone using PokeSav could generate in minutes?

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[quote] uberkoolio : I don't understand how to EV train, I researched on youtube, serebii, and bulbapedia but they're not giving any clear information. Zubats give Speed EVs, so I have to kill 255 of them to get 255 Evs. Does this mean I don't have to fight them anymore? I just need to level to get the EVs applied to my pokemon's individual values? [/quote] Provided you want the highest speed possible, you will kill 255 Zubats. However, you need 4 EVs in order to gain a point in that particular stat, so you'll want to stop at 252 Zubats, because there are 3 leftover EVs. Now, you can only obtain 510 EV points overall, meaning you'll be able to use 508 of them, with the last two being negligible. Same goes for any other stat. IVs are random amounts of points added to a pokemon's base stats. @above, some of us like having legit pokemon. Plus, it doesn't even take that long to EV train.

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tiganior1 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Vitamins speed up the process a lot. A Macho Brace or Power Items can help as well, but they degrade speed temporarily. Really useful, as when you remove the item, the speed returns to normal.

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[quote] XxRocky : EV training is useless. First you have to make sure you match the perfect nature. Then you have to burn a ton of berries to drop the EVs that you don't want. EV train and for what? Stats that someone using PokeSav could generate in minutes? [/quote] Whoa, whoa -- what? You don't need to use a ton of berries for anything if you're doing it right. Correction, you don't have to use ANY. If you fail at EV training, that's cool. Don't try to talk bad about it because you don't know how to do it.

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mast3r4zn 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] uberkoolio : I don't understand how to EV train, I researched on youtube, serebii, and bulbapedia but they're not giving any clear information. Zubats give Speed EVs, so I have to kill 255 of them to get 255 Evs. Does this mean I don't have to fight them anymore? I just need to level to get the EVs applied to my pokemon's individual values? [/quote] hmm i guess i can give u the gist of it every pkmn, when caught/hatched, starts of with base IV (you can't change) and 512 EV "slots" every 4 EV equates to +1 on that stat, rounding down (so 4 EV gives same stat boost as 7 EV). Every stat can have a max of 255 EV (taking round down into consideration, only 252 EV is useful) the point of EV training is to max your primary stats for high dmg/speed/tanking. So when you kill a wild pkmn, it gives u EV, so in your case, killing 1 zubat gives u 1 speed EV, killing 255 gives u ur 255 EV, and you can't have ANY MORE SPEED EVs. However, you can still get EVs on your other stats, but when u hit 512, you can't get anymore, and your EV is maxed, hence done EV training. an Example: i just EV trained my weavile today. It's primary stats are speed and att, making it a physical sweeper. so i train to get 252 att EV (from snover/machoke) and 252 speed EV (sneasel/medicam/meditite/zubat) and put rest into HP that way, my weavile's att and speed are very high, while leaving other relatively useless stats ( such as sp. att) very low. Other things to take into consideration: pkmn's nature, items to speed up EV training (power items) hope this helped. I know it's kinda confusing =

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Panicka 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] HolyMythos : It's actually not that bad. Sure, they're taking it to the extreme, but it's not like they're spending hours upon hours trying to make their character/pokemon/whatever 1% better than they normally are. [/quote] I want you to read the responses on this page then look me in the eyes and tell me it's "not that bad"

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Irony 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Panicka : And I don't get the point of trying to over analyze and break down a game like Pokemon the way they do. [/quote] I agree. It's freaking Pokemon.

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tiganior1 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kayfabe : Provided you want the highest speed possible, you will kill 255 Zubats. However, you need 4 EVs in order to gain a point in that particular stat, so you'll want to stop at 252 Zubats, because there are 3 leftover EVs. Now, you can only obtain 510 EV points overall, meaning you'll be able to use 508 of them, with the last two being negligible. Same goes for any other stat. IVs are random amounts of points added to a pokemon's base stats. @above, some of us like having legit pokemon. Plus, it doesn't even take that long to EV train. [/quote] Would spawning pokemon to EV Train from an AR count as cheating?

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chinesenood1 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

what is ev training? and how does it work?

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ThatPirateGuy 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Irony : I agree. It's freaking Pokemon. [/quote] People say the same thing about Maplestory. It's Pokemon, true but it's also a game that can be very competitive. Like any competitive game, people pay to win. You have casual players and you have competitive players. Hell, you might even have one person that fits both.

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Panicka 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ThatPirateGuy : People say the same thing about Maplestory. It's Pokemon, true but it's also a game that can be very competitive. Like any competitive game, people pay to win. You have casual players and you have competitive players. Hell, you might even have one person that fits both. [/quote] That doesn't make it any less lame.

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mast3r4zn 03/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ThatPirateGuy : People say the same thing about Maplestory. It's Pokemon, true but it's also a game that can be very competitive. Like any competitive game, people pay to win. You have casual players and you have competitive players. Hell, you might even have one person that fits both. [/quote] haha tru dat. For me, casual until i beat the game; then i get competitive, or else the game loses its value xD

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ThatPirateGuy 03/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Panicka : That doesn't make it any less lame. [/quote] Nope. But I'm sure many people find you lame for playing Maplestory, right? If you enjoy playing a game, screw the people who think you're lame for playing it.

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