When to Bloodbuild/HP wash?

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thread starter darkkbandit1 Mar 07 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What is a good level to Bloodbuild or HP wash? Does it matter what level you bloodbuild or hp wash at? Because I am level 104 now and I saved up 10 AP. I plan to just use them on dex as normal or use them on HP. I read the HP wash guide on sleepywood and it says each hp point gives 18 hp so I'm assuming thats for all levels. Thanks for the responses.

My Characters: Seymori - 104 Galicia Ranger

VietDreamer 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] spiritrival : Why are you saving it? Works just as well incrementally O.o [/quote] this is what i was planning to do, because saving=keeping track of how much you have blooded so your attack range wouldnt be ripped off anymore than needed

My Characters: CherryArrovv - 101 Scania Sniper

holyflare101 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you shouldnt save it because you can just count the number of levels and its better to gain the hp for the earlier levels.

My Characters: xwizknightx - 44 Bera I/L Wizard

VietDreamer 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] holyflare101 : you shouldnt save it because you can just count the number of levels and its better to gain the hp for the earlier levels. [/quote] depends on how good your memory is, for someone like me, saving is my best option so i wouldnt shave off more of my attack range for an extra 1-2 levels that i do not need and for example if you need more hp (say 25), if you add to use at earlier level it wont help you much unless it changes the from one-hit ko to 2 hit-ko

My Characters: CherryArrovv - 101 Scania Sniper

darkkbandit1 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kyensho : If that's how you want to do it, go for it. Personally I would get it all done at once, though. It's just a little easier for me to keep track of. Why the pause in between 110-116 though? [/quote] Haha no idea. I was just trying to follow Kevvl's example. I'll start blooding soon i guess.

My Characters: Seymori - 104 Galicia Ranger

coolsmiley1 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Kyensho : I agree. From 100-120, I put 56 points into HP. I'd rather survive at lower levels and do below-average damage rather than die in a single hit. I honestly don't know why people decide to Blood around 13x when leveling is a pain in the ass rather than the easier levels. [/quote] I didn't do this because I was training at newts and I can survive them, and I don't want to add more ap than I need into hp.

My Characters: zOmGiTzJaCkY - 120 Broa Marksman

holyflare101 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] VietDreamer : depends on how good your memory is, for someone like me, saving is my best option so i wouldnt shave off more of my attack range for an extra 1-2 levels that i do not need and for example if you need more hp (say 25), if you add to use at earlier level it wont help you much unless it changes the from one-hit ko to 2 hit-ko [/quote] its still better than not having the hp at the lower levels because you still get all of the points into hp at your goal level. does anyone know how much hp archers get on average per level? I would blood 40 points to get 4k hp at 120, sounds reasonable?

My Characters: xwizknightx - 44 Bera I/L Wizard

ilovetacos 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

this is an interesting topic, why blood build 100+? and not earlier?

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darkkbandit1 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You know actually I'm going to start blooding at level 130. According to some posts, the extra HP is not needed for survivability in training from 110-130. The poll seems to be a bit in favor of 130+ as well.

My Characters: Seymori - 104 Galicia Ranger

StanBert 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Honnestly. I haven't washed or blooded and i'm able to survive any boss except pink been.....You don't need to blood or wash. With the new master adventurer medal and a MoN you can survive skeles at 12x and any ToT map except the last 2 by 140. It's your decision but i feel blooding is a waste. Though my opinion is very different from those who have done so such as kevvl however i have never once felt the urge to blood. As for bossing the only bosses which need a lot of HP are targa and Horn tail. But by 16x you can HT with some minor HP equips anyway same for targa at 17x (with HB of course). Wasting stats on HP hardly seems worth it especially since Galicia probably wont see much HT action for a while to come.

My Characters: BlowSniper - 169 Bera Marksman

Freeinternet 03/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Best levels to blood build is before level 130, probably right before 4th job since one of the objectives of blood build is to leave Jr. Newties earlier and move onto Skeles, now you have Oblivions as well which do more damage than Skeles.

My Characters: Freemodem3rd - 133 Khaini Marksman

VietDreamer 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] holyflare101 : its still better than not having the hp at the lower levels because you still get all of the points into hp at your goal level. does anyone know how much hp archers get on average per level? I would blood 40 points to get 4k hp at 120, sounds reasonable? [/quote] around 20 i think, and 4k at 120, good enough and yeah if you have good memory and there is no point in saving, just each of us have different references :P do you guys think i should blood 25 points for skele? (as long as it's faster than typhons i'm okay ^^)

My Characters: CherryArrovv - 101 Scania Sniper

Scomomage 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well...I washed like 90 AP so far. I can survive ht heads without hb ^^

My Characters: Undiminished - 170 Broa Night Lord

holyflare101 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

another question would it be better to distribute the ap into hp like 2 hp 3 dex from 100-120 or 5 ap into hp for the last 8 levels?

My Characters: xwizknightx - 44 Bera I/L Wizard

coolsmiley1 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] StanBert : Honnestly. I haven't washed or blooded and i'm able to survive any boss except pink been.....You don't need to blood or wash. With the new master adventurer medal and a MoN you can survive skeles at 12x and any ToT map except the last 2 by 140. It's your decision but i feel blooding is a waste. Though my opinion is very different from those who have done so such as kevvl however i have never once felt the urge to blood. As for bossing the only bosses which need a lot of HP are targa and Horn tail. But by 16x you can HT with some minor HP equips anyway same for targa at 17x (with HB of course). Wasting stats on HP hardly seems worth it especially since Galicia probably wont see much HT action for a while to come. [/quote] The point of hp washing it to train in higher lvl maps at a earlier lvl.

My Characters: zOmGiTzJaCkY - 120 Broa Marksman

adamhere 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Why do people save the points before they blood? It makes much more sense to add them as you go. Just make sure you don't lose track obviously..... Having the points in earlier makes no difference, saving them could potentially kill you.

My Characters: RadiclEdward - 127 Windia Bow Master