Opening boxes in APQ bonus
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thread starter benjaminlu Feb 21 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Hey there, So im wondering .. what's the best way to open boxes? There are two main things i need to find out. 1. What is better, crawling and poking, or standing and hitting/stabbing? 2. What is better, your normal wep + booster or just another weapon that may be faster? (i.e Knuckle + booster vs yellow umbrella + no booster)
My Characters: Kyleocity - 103 Scania Thunder Breaker
Haishiro 02/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
1. What I usually do is hit several boxes at a time, because the delay for hitting a box is longer than the delay for your weapon attack (meaning you can use the normal attack faster than you can actually hit the box). If you're crawling, it takes slightly more time to crawl:poke:shift direction:crawl:poke..etc. The only exception to this, I think, would be if you're an Assassin or Archer type. Sometimes when you use a normal attack in the air you might fire off a shot instead of doing an attack, which will slow you down. 2. Normal wep+booster: depends on your class weapon speed (DKs should definitely use a different weapon), but I think in your case knuckle +booster would be faster than an umbrella. I've also got my own question. Usually when in bonus, everyone spreads out across the map and don't fight for boxes that are right next to each other simple because there are SO many boxes. Today when I was APQing, I landed at the same spot as another party member. I immediately moved to the platform above and let him take the current platform we were on. The platform I went to had boxes arranged like this: a b c de f g h I was hitting boxes C, D, and E consecutively. The other person followed me onto my platform after he had cleared the original one and started hitting F and G. I had already opened D and E and had hit C about 2~3 times when I moved a couple pixels to the right to pick up a diamond that had dropped (Yes, I'm poor). The other party member then moved over to the left and hit C once, which then opened and dropped an Onyx Apple. I didn't loot it and fight over it with him because 1) I didn't want to be smeared as an apple looter since he did hit the box last 2) It's not worth fighting over. However, I am pretty annoyed that the other party member was hitting boxes so close to me, as it's really easy to have disputes over which drops are whose(Due to server lag, I could hit the box first on my screen while the other person could have seen that THEY hit it first also; or if two boxes very close together open at the same time, it's hard to tell what dropped from which box). Am I wrong to be irritated that the other person was following me so closely? I mean, I always move one screen length away from other people if possible, since there ARE lots of other boxes on other platforms.
My Characters: Haishiro - 71 Broa Priest
benjaminlu 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I havent had anyone steal my boxes so yeah :/ But yeah thanks for your input :D
My Characters: Kyleocity - 103 Scania Thunder Breaker
MmmPotato 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
What I usually do is just equip a "Faster" weapon like my plastic bottle, and whack two boxes at a time, if they're close enough. [quote] Haishiro : I've also got my own question. Usually when in bonus, everyone spreads out across the map and don't fight for boxes that are right next to each other simple because there are SO many boxes. Today when I was APQing, I landed at the same spot as another party member. I immediately moved to the platform above and let him take the current platform we were on. The platform I went to had boxes arranged like this: a b c de f g h I was hitting boxes C, D, and E consecutively. The other person followed me onto my platform after he had cleared the original one and started hitting F and G. I had already opened D and E and had hit C about 2~3 times when I moved a couple pixels to the right to pick up a diamond that had dropped (Yes, I'm poor). The other party member then moved over to the left and hit C once, which then opened and dropped an Onyx Apple. I didn't loot it and fight over it with him because 1) I didn't want to be smeared as an apple looter since he did hit the box last 2) It's not worth fighting over. However, I am pretty annoyed that the other party member was hitting boxes so close to me, as it's really easy to have disputes over which drops are whose(Due to server lag, I could hit the box first on my screen while the other person could have seen that THEY hit it first also; or if two boxes very close together open at the same time, it's hard to tell what dropped from which box). Am I wrong to be irritated that the other person was following me so closely? I mean, I always move one screen length away from other people if possible, since there ARE lots of other boxes on other platforms. [/quote] I agree that it's better to give everyone some space to open boxes in, but sometimes the timer gets really low and the closest boxes are in someone else's area. :/ I wouldn't try opening a box someone was already hitting, but I might go for one that was next to it.
My Characters: Oosp - 118 Bera Sniper
benjaminlu 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Hmm .. wait so faster is fast (3) right? Is there any weapon for under lv100 and common/pirate that's fast (2)? Because if there isnt im better off just using normal wep + booster right?
My Characters: Kyleocity - 103 Scania Thunder Breaker
Psydei 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
yeah, use a faster wep, whack one in your left, while it recovers to be able to get hit again, wack the other in your right and while recovers, whack the one in your left and repeat.
My Characters: Dimei - 142 Khaini Bishop
SilverFoxR 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
SilverFoxRThanks to my Lunchbox + Booster's ability to max out my attack speed, all I do is stand so I can reach 2 boxes and hold the attack key down. 8 swings later, 2 boxes broken =3
My Characters: SilverFoxR - 142 Bera Hero
runecaster 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
1. Poke two at once, and move on while the boxes are still spewing their insides. Just stay close enough by that you can see if an apple pops out, but don't just sit there waiting. 2. As a TB, you should have SI, no? I think there are a few normal weapons that are faster. As a warrior, I can't say. I just pumpkin basket/booster, which is fun fast.
My Characters: lxpaIadinxI - 135 Khaini Paladin
xkaokaox 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
use a faster weapon. such as a lollipop or pumpkin basket. maximize ur time by hitting 2 boxes at a time. if there are two, poke them while laying down. if there are 3 stand and atk because sometimes your atk will go backwards instead of forwards. last 5 seconds of the pq avoid opening new boxes as apples will fly out and you will miss them, this usually results in rage and smacking yourself in the face lol. also keep eye on boxes you've opened as you move to the next one. sometimes 2 come out of the same box. the only time i stand and watch a box completely empty it's goods are if there are no boxes left around me and I have to crawl up a rope. make sure you have slots in USE because sometimes u get scrolls too :O lastly, avoid going in areas where people already are... this only leads to looting and other annoyances.
My Characters: Sayonara - 92 Scania I/L Mage
iLoveAus 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I need a faster weapon...only got fast D= and mages don't have booster!
My Characters: HealingNin - 59 KradiaGMS Cleric
Taichikara + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] iLoveAus : I need a faster weapon...only got fast D= and mages don't have booster! [/quote] I have the same problem. I bought a fruit knife for like 500-800 mesos and it's "faster". Before that I was using my goblin bat I got in a quest (cause it's fast). As soon as the balrog is killed, double click on the fruit knife and start swinging (even before you get to the boxes). EDIT : had*, not have. The fruit knife really does work, btw.
My Characters: Chitaihime - 84 Windia Priest
benjaminlu 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
OHHH fruit knife! But yeah i dont have SI yet (7 more lvs f5) So i guess i might have to stick with my knuckle fast (4) + booster (2) for now and then use your tactics. thanks everyone
My Characters: Kyleocity - 103 Scania Thunder Breaker
Teehee 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Just like Silver, I use the lunchbox that I have since apparently it's one of the fastest weapons in the game.
My Characters: KagSesshou - 132 Mardia Bow Master
atommg05 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I was in an APQ the other day and some guy glitched/hacked the boxes... as soon as we entered the bonus stage, all the boxex exploded... it was a mad house. I only got 1 apple, then everyone was running around after the earrings and diamonds...
My Characters: Gwaltneysin - 128 Bera Night Lord
Cubekid2 02/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
One and only one of the many many many many (T.T) many many APQS i did, somebody hacked all the boxes and every one of them opened for us to loot lol. Weird but awesome.
My Characters: AtomicPath - 110 Bera Dawn Warrior
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