My feelings about the Dual Blade
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thread starter AltairHawk Feb 20 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I have to say, I am REALLY dissapointed..... -First of all, aesthetically speaking, they got messed up. Sure, Bloody Storm and a few other skills look nice, but so many look like utter crap. Their purple and black buff animations don't go at all with their golden and red attack animations....They should either use 1 group of colours or the other and not mix such a terrible blend up. Flash Jump looks horrendous as well; they just keep making it worse and worse....the original is easily the nicest looking. The attacking skills look alright, but most are mediocre. The Asian symbols flying around a "meh-looking" slash effect aren't good either..... -Why they force everybody to use LUK daggers is beyond me. There are only a few decent looking ones, and none of them are end-game. Why do all of the "Daggers" look like semicircular plates? Last I checked, a dagger was simply a longer knife, not some strange thing sticking out of your arm. The worst thing is that the Timeless Blade is Dexless! WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING? If Maple Blades come out, it will be the rise of the Dexless Naruto Bandits of Ass. And how is this class a "Dual-Blade"? They only seem to use ONE Blade, and then a "Dagger", which I have already said doesn't look anything remotely close to a Dagger. Basically, these Blades are revamped versions of Shadower Shields, like the Khanjar, with more Weapon Attack and no STR requirements. Talk about a lame way to implement Dual-Wielding.... -There is nothing really new brought to the table with this class. From he earlier videos, it looks like they play almost exactly like Bandits, and from these newer ones it looks like they use the Aran skill Final Cross/Toss and then a 45 degree Rush, which also looks like crap, may I add. Apart from that, they use their ugly FJ to fly around with their ugly Shadow Partner....Amazing....I have looked at the skill tables, and all of the skills are either remixes or blatant copies of other skills. Bloody Storm and Owl Dead are the nicer, more original skills, but it looks like they aren't used a lot after getting Flash Jump and these other higher level skills.... -What is it with an Ultimate? Like they aren't overpowered enough already, at 4th job they get a powerful map-killing screen with ZERO Cooldown. Why would anybody make a Magician after this? Their one area of expertise: Map Mobbing Attacks, have been copied by a class which not only has superior mobility and mob damage, but can also boss FAR better than they could ever hope to. I just don't get it....so after 3 jobs of high mobility and decently interesting training they are forced to sit at one spot and spam a skill? How is that a Theif? EDIT: Thanks for the new movie link. It appears as if the Ultimate does burn, but that may be because of venom. It didn't seem to be doing very much damage, but the Dual Blade IS only level 123, so I don't know how powerful it can become. Hopefully not too much, for reasons in my original post... I may have mor
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MtFuji 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Whoa, wall of text, I didn't bother reading it :S But yeah, post in the Dual Blade forum.
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Jvlaple 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Agreed, except I like this detailed SP over the black blob NLs/NWs currently have.
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IWaZzZzZzZzHere 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I feel the same. Except I'm not mad enough to rant about it. It's only been like 4 days (I think), and it's Testpia, they might change some skills, add some cool down and others.
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GaRuRnQuEmEr 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Jvlaple : Agreed, except I like this detailed SP over the black blob NLs/NWs currently have. [/quote] lol, well...it IS called shadow partner =p and i think it's stupid how they change all these new classes that come out and leave the skills of the old classes how they are.
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AltairHawk 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Alright, I have added all of the Movie Links that I know exist showing gameplay. -I actually sort of like Dual Blades in 1st job, judging by these videos. Although they are basically Bandits, their skills look nice and neat. -By the level 49 Video, I don't like them anymore......I don't like that new Attack animation at all..... -The 103 Movie Video is the worst. It shows their true ugliness and horrible colour blend, as well as their blatant copying of skills from other classes.
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coolsmiley1 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I hate how they stole skills from other classes.
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IsThatAPole 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Complain, Complain, Complainn.
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Mageklan 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Yeah the colour blend will totally ruin the uber flashy fun class. And skills from other classes? Hell, it`s even better, I can have like 3 diffrent class elements in 1 character, what do I care if it`s unoriginal. The bandwagons will chill eventualy too, at the end, they will just be another class of Maplestory.. and Maplers will forever complain / criticize everything that nexon makes.
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BlindShadow 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Actually they use blades and daggers
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pavchka 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
pavchkaA LUK Dagger is a Cutter and a STR Dagger is a dagger. On other words: LUK Daggers are made for slashing and STR Daggers for stabbing. Just had to throw that out. I haven't formed a judgement of the Dual Blader class yet except that to me it comes across as a chimera made to cater to the needs of the general Mapler (I heard it has Shadow Partner, fast attacks and an ultimate-like skill). But who knows, maybe it'll be fun.
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AltairHawk + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Mageklan : Yeah the colour blend will totally ruin the uber flashy fun class. And skills from other classes? Hell, it`s even better, I can have like 3 diffrent class elements in 1 character, what do I care if it`s unoriginal. The bandwagons will chill eventualy too, at the end, they will just be another class of Maplestory.. and Maplers will forever complain / criticize everything that nexon makes. [/quote] Em...yes, it will! It may look decently fun, but flashing pieces of donkey diarhea at people may be flashy but it certainly isn't nice to see. (I have been watching too much AVGN lately) [quote] pavchka : A LUK Dagger is a Cutter and a STR Dagger is a dagger. On other words: LUK Daggers are made for slashing and STR Daggers for stabbing. Just had to throw that out. I haven't formed a judgement of the Dual Blader class yet except that to me it comes across as a chimera made to cater to the needs of the general Mapler (I heard it has Shadow Partner, fast attacks and an ultimate-like skill). But who knows, maybe it'll be fun. [/quote] Those terms were NOT made up by Nexon, but by Maplers to not have to say "LUK Dagger" and "STR Dagger" every time. And in certain places I have seen it backwards: Cutters are actually STR Daggers and Daggers are LUK Daggers. Also, not EVERY LUK Dagger looks like a "Cutter". Many actually look normal, it is mostly the end-game ones that suck. And either case, both types are referred to as "Daggers", while only 1 type is actually a Dagger at end-game. Shadow Partner, Mobility, and Fast Attacks are all thrown out the window if they have an Ultimate. No matter how good their other skills are, they will use 1 for bossing, anf will Ultimate spam for training. And such a "chimera" isn't needed! The whole point of classes is to specialize in a given thing and be unique. Making a class like this sort of ruins the point of other classes, plus it isn't as fun as specialization.
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SteadyLoner 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
SteadyLonerI don't know what the hell you're talking about, frankly, these are probably one, if not, the best looking classes. I'm just thinking about how big the bandwagon is going to look like.
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Mageklan 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] AltairHawk : Em...yes, it will! It may look decently fun, but flashing pieces of donkey diarhea at people may be flashy but it certainly isn't nice to see. (I have been watching too much AVGN lately) [/quote] But have you thought about the idea that other people won`t see it as a flashing peace of donkey diarhea? I`m not much of an artist or anything, I do not pay attention to things like colour blend, and I believe that i`m not the only one out there who won`t give a rats ass about the colour blend / pieces of donkey diarhea...
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zlbloodlz 02/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
this is wat nexon was thinking when they came up w/ dual blades: Head of nexon: we need a new class... what should we do? nexon: *looking at WoW* HOW ABOUT DUAL BLADES? Rest of Nexon: BRILLIANT! Head of Nexon: but... what ideas do we have? nexon: ehh, just copy off of every single class and put random color. Everybody loves flashy things! rest of nexon: OMG, PERFECT IDEAZZ Yup, that's what I'm guessing happened...
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