6x will not exist until nexon fixes hs

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thread starter executionerz Feb 19 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

There is not 6x currently People need to stop saying HSHSHSHSHSH. HS=/=1.5x its more like HS=.25x Go ask any priest or bishop and ask them when they use HS in gallos for example they will only get 2750k exp and reg exp is 2500k. Theres only 8x if Nexon lets the event (artifact 2x event), card, fam buff to stack.

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xxxd3athxxx 02/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] executionerz : I think it would only be great for the killer if he is the only one killing. If the Other member of the party even touches the mob of the killer it will lower his exp. And i love how other people are calling me stupid yet they cant even explain anything. And how is 1 person = 110%? And when i say hs=.25+ i mean it only gives that much extra from the original exp kill [/quote] Yes, you gain lower EXP but not when the priest/bishop is also killing (which is usually the case), you leech their EXP too, thus allowing you to gain more EXP over time. When you are by yourself with HS, you only gain 1.1x EXP (110%/+10%). IIRC, the EXP is capped at 130% if there's 2 people and it goes to 150% if 3 or more. When a monster is killed, you gain the EXP first THEN it's multiplied (in this case, 6x (Card + Buff + HS)), so 6x is possible.

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executionerz 02/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xxxd3athxxx : Yes, you gain lower EXP but not when the priest/bishop is also killing (which is usually the case), you leech their EXP too, thus allowing you to gain more EXP over time. When you are by yourself with HS, you only gain 1.1x EXP (110%/+10%). IIRC, the EXP is capped at 130% if there's 2 people and it goes to 150% if 3 or more. When a monster is killed, you gain the EXP first THEN it's multiplied (in this case, 6x (Card + Buff + HS)), so 6x is possible. [/quote] If ur a priest having 2 people in ur Party i think ur just considered to be there to HS. ONly if ur Bishop . But i kinda give up everyone is killing me alrdy :D. So im guessing With Bishop only is the only possible way to gain the most out of 6x.

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executionerz 02/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] lRxRl : Not true, i made a priest and i love it for the hs, i prefer it to a bishop. [/quote] Same here im getting a lot of free leeches from AM's and Arans. But im just saying for it to rly get amazing exp the best way is to become a bishop. Unless u can 15k with shining ray at lv 110 LOL then WOw o.O.

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ChopSuey 02/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Let's say I'm level 100, partying with level 90 priest, level 110 noob aran and level 100 super 1337 pro dexless sin (w/e) (0.6 + 0.4 * Player level / Total party level) * Party Bonus (0.6 + 0.4 * 100/400) * 2500 = 1750 experience WITHOUT HS if you party. If multiplied with HS (1.5x) = 2625 experience WITH HS if you party. The reason why HS works best with 3 people or more because Nexon restricted the experience to 110% maximum. I'm estimating if you party at Gallopera with another person without HS, you would get 2000 exp. With HS = 2750. And 2750 / 2000 is not 1.5x, in fact, 1.375x That is why Bishop gets better experience with leecher, because partying with another person gets their benefit of obtaining maximum experience possible.

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JunSama 02/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Holy symbol only works completely in a party. In that case, you won't be receiving the full 1x or 2x exp anyway, cause it's partly being shared by party members. You, sir, aren't very bright.

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MyLuckiDay 02/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] bluqaur : Hahahaha, this is a funny thread. Let me explain this to you: 1 person in party: 110% exp 2 people in party: 130% exp 3-6 people in party: 150% exp And why are you even talking about 6x? People don't say they're training on 6x, they say 4x with hs. It's less than 6x because the priest is leeching some of your exp. Furthermore, you suggest that hs is giving "0.25", where your example demonstrates +10%. FAIL And lol @ lukless hermit. And to everyone arguing about whether hs is better than soloing, hs is almost always better. I partied a priest and a bm. the bm went afk and I kept training, but then when the bm left the party i got less exp per kill. moral of the story, 3 people in your party lets you get more exp per kill with hs, plus the 10% bonus for partying... only if your party members are much higher level than you and not really killing very much is party/hs worse. [/quote] He's right. When I solo train at newts I leave my bishop afk on a rope, and I get more exp by having him in the party than without him. Also, an HS mule. I can't remember the exact amount of EXP gained with HS/without HS and with the bishop in party/without him, but I definitely remember it was higher exp gain with him and it definitely wasn't that small change as TS said. By the way, is the 1 person in party/2 person/3-5 person % affected only by party members who are within the monster level range? For say, when I train I have a 160 bishop afk on a rope, which is definitely in newts range, and I do see a difference in exp gain. But if I were to add an HB mule for example, level 70, it is out of newts level range, would the % of HS be affected or stay the same as if it was only 1 person in party? What I'm trying to ask is if it is based on party members or actual monster level ranges ~ char ranges. o_o

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mahbishup 02/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] executionerz : I think it would only be great for the killer if he is the only one killing. If the Other member of the party even touches the mob of the killer it will lower his exp. And i love how other people are calling me stupid yet they cant even explain anything. And how is 1 person = 110%? And when i say hs=.25+ i mean it only gives that much extra from the original exp kill @above It still wouldnt be practical only if the parthner didnt attack thou. Since i trained at Gallos i was in 4x with a parthner i got 11k (bonus was 1.1k) Without him i only got 11k. Plus a bishop needing a parthner? Id consider a parthner once i hit Bishop only if im selling them leech or a freind . Other than that its pretty pointless if they attack any of my monsters. [/quote] Ugh, you are so retarded. How can you be so blind to not even see what you are doing wrong.

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Kalovale + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I didn't make this specifically to answer this thread, but there seems to be so much B.S. here that I feel the need to repost my thread. Read please. http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1402964/1/EXP_Gain_EXP_Loss_and_Party_Training.html#

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